Wagner, Judge,

delivered the opinion of the court.

This cause was tried on a second amended petition, in which the plaintiff states as its cause of action that Peter O’Neil and Francis Doyle were partners under the name of O’Neil & Co., and that on the 13th of March, 1868, Joseph O’Neil being president of the plaintiff, the defendant wrote to him on that day from Ireland as follows: “Hearing from P. O’Neil and Mr. Doyle that they could use advantageously some additional cash over *462and above .the amount already had pf your bank, and being desirous to promote their interests and enable them to carry on their business efficiently, I will thank you to submit to yo.ur board that if they will..lend O’Neil & Co. $15,000 I shall hold myself responsible for that amount, and will leave with you as collateral security the note and mortgage of Isaac Walker, which is at present in your, vault, for. a like sum (say $15,000). If. the Central cannot conveniently make this advanqe, I will feel obliged to assist them in procuring it elsewhere.” The petition also states that this paper was delivered tp the said president on the 30th day pf March, 1868, by him on the same day laid before the board directors and by them accepted; that by this writing defendant, .promised the plaintiff that if it would loan to O’Neil & Co. $15,000 he (defendant) would be responsible for .that amount; that thereupon, “ on the faith thereof, plaintiff lent, to O’Neil & Co., in the ordinary and usual manner of such, loans, $15,000, of which defendant afterward had due notice; that of this sum $10,000 was lpnt on the 80th of March, 1868, for .sixty days, and the balance on the 9th of April, 1868, for sixty days ;■ of all of which, the defendant afterward had full kno.wledge, and agreed and assented thereto and approved thereof.”

The answer admitted the writing set out in the plaintiff’s petition, but denied that the plaintiff at any time gave to the defendant notice of the. acceptance of the proposal, or that the proposal was accepted; denied,, further, that .plaintiff made to O’Neil & Doyle any loans or advances on the faith .of the writing as stated and set forth, or that he had. any notice of them from any source prior to the commencement of this suit, or that he at any time assented to or approved the same.

To this answer, there was a replication, which simply denied that defendant made a proposal in writing to guaranty plaintiff in case it would make any loan to O’Neil & Doyle, and that the only writing or contract made by the defendant relating to the loan, was the agreement mentioned in the petition. The cause was tried by-the court sitting as a jury, and the verdict and judgment were rendered for the plaintiff.

Whether the loans were made and in what manner were ques*463.tions of fact, and the. verdict .and finding of the court below in that regard is conclusive here. So far as refusing instructions asked for the .defendant is concerned, we see no ground for interference. Those already given at- his instance covered the material points in the case and were sufficiently favorable. ■

The • second ■'instruction given for the plaintiff is, I think, unobjectionable. :If, after the loan, was made, defendant had information .thereoff-and with full knowledge approved of what the plaintiff had done.in the premises and assented*thereto,¡this would, amount-.to. a ratification, and he would be bound.thereby. But under the pleading the main issue presented is as to the real character of-the writing addressed by the defendant to the plaintiff. The view of. the plaintiff is that-it is an original, primary . undertaking-r^-a-n absolute promise, binding the defendant without any notice of. acceptance. On the other hand, the defendant contends that it is nothing more than a guaranty, and that to impose any obligation on the defendant, notice of ■ acceptance was indispensably necessary.

..-The first and third- instructions given by the court for-the plaintiff proceed upon the theory that the .writing was. an original promise,- and so. treat it, and declare that -if the plaintiff loaned the sum to O’Neil & C.o.- in pursuance .of .the writing, then it was entitled to recover. The instructions wholly dispense with .any notice, of acceptance to be given to the defendant, and hold the’ writing to be a binding contract as- soon as acted upon by the plaintiff, whether the defendant was ever apprised of that fact or not.

There is a marked difference between an overture or proposition to guaranty and a simple- contract of suretyship. The one is a contingent liability, the other is an actual undertaking. The . surety is bound with his principal as an original promisor; he is a joint debtor with his principal from the very inception of the agreement, and his ..obligation continues until full payment is made. An indulgence by the creditor will not absolve him, for his: liability-is .absolute,, and he. is-bound to know of. his .principal’s default. But the.contract qf a guarantor is his.separate, independent, contract. It is not a joint engagement with the *464principal to do a thing. It is in the nature of a warranty that some one else shall do a certain thing or act, and the guarantor is responsible only for the default or failure of his principal. jA surety being a joint contractor, may be sued with his principal; a guarantor cannot be.

The great weight of authorities, including the decisions in this State, establish the proposition that, as the original contract with the principal is not the contract of. the guarantor, the creditor is bound to give him notice if he intends to hold him responsible. The counsel for the plaintiff have cited cases to show that no notice is necessary, and that the guarantor is bound whenever the creditor receives his proposition and acts on it; but the law of this State is settled otherwise. That the paper addressed by the defendant to the plaintiff was simply an overture or proposition, instead of a direct or absolute undertaking, seems to be sufficiently plain. He says, in substance, that hearing that O’Neil & Co. could use some additional cash over and above the amount already had of the plaintiff, be would thank the president of the plaintiff to submit to the board if they would lend the firm $15,000, and he would hold himself responsible for that amount; but if the plaintiff could not conveniently make the advance, he should feel obliged to procure it elsewhere. This was nothing but the submission of a proposition. . The defendant did not know whether it would be accepted or not, and until he was notified of its acceptance he obviously could not tell anything about the nature or certainty of his liability. This, it appears to me, is the fair and correct interpretation of the instrument; and the decisions in this State and in other courts, which we have followed, have so construed similar writings, and held that notice of acceptance was necessary to fix the responsibility of the guarantor.

'In the case of Smith v. Anthony, 5 Mo. 504, Smith addressed to Anthony the following letter:

“Con. Wm. Aktiiony: Dear Sir — Wm. Mitchell, Jr., will probably call on you to purchase your horse; and should you conclude to sell, you can do so. Take his note, and I’ will be responsible for the payment on his return.

“ Respectfully, Zenas Smith.”

*465Anthony sold Mitchell his horse, and Mitchell took him to Alabama, and returned; and failing to make payment, suit was brought against Smith, and it was held that before Anthony could recover he must prove that he gave Smith notice that he had sold on the faith of the guaranty, and that he looked to him for payment.

In Rankin v. Childs, 9 Mo. 665, McCourtney applied to Rankin to purchase lumber for building a ferry-boat. Rankin refused to credit him without security. McCourtney mentioned the name of Childs as security, and he was accepted as sufficient. A few days after McCourtney presented a bill of the lumber in Childs’ handwriting, at the foot of which was written:

“Messrs. Rankin will furnish the above bill as soon possible, and I will order what more I may want for my boat in a short time. Jambs McCouetney.”

“ I hereby guaranty the payment of the above bill. January 29, 1842. Wm. Childs.”

It was in evidence that the lumber was delivered, and that, while the boat was being built, Childs was frequently present as a visitor but took no part in the matter. In an action against Childs, it was held that his contract was not a direct promise but a mere guaranty, and to hold him liable, notice should have been given of the acceptance of the guaranty.

In Douglass v. Reynolds, 7 Pet. 113, a letter was addressed by the defendant to the plaintiff in the following words: “ Gentlemen— Our friend, Mr. Chester Harring, to assist him in business, may require your aid from time to time, either by acceptance, or Indorsement of his paper, or advances in cash. In order to save you from harm in so doing, we do bind ourselves severally and jointly to be responsible to you at any time for a sum not exceeding $8,000, should the said Chester Harring fail to do so.” It was held that this was a guaranty, and that to hold the guarantors liable, they were entitled to notice of its acceptance.

This is now and has long been the firmly established doctrine in the Supreme Court of the United States. (Douglass v. Reynolds, supra; 12 Pet. 497; Russell v. Clark, 7 Cranch, 69; Edmondson v. Drake, 5 Pet. 624; Lee v. Dick, 10 Pet. 482.)

*466In Maine the following instrument was construed in tbe same way: “Messrs. W. & G. Tuckerman: Gentlemen — For the bill of goods which Mr. Charles B. Prescott bought of you on the 6th- inst., I hold myself responsible to you for payment agreeably to. the contract made with him ; and I will hold myself responsible for any goods which you may sell to him, provided the amount does not exceed $500.” This was decided to be a guaranty, and as the plaintiff had not given notice of its acceptance in the first instance, nor of the delivery of the goods under it subsequently, he could .not succeed in his action. (Tuckerman v. French, 1 Me. 445.) A similar decision was made in the case of Bradley v. Cary, 8 Me. 214.

The question was decided in the same way, on essentially the same state, of facts, in Craft v. Isham, 18 Conn. 28; Oaks v. Miller, 18 Verm. 116; 16 Term. 63 ; Lowry v. Adams, 22 Verm. 166 ; Babcock v. Bryant, 12 Pick. 133 ; Mussey v. Raynor, 22 Pick. 283. In all these cases the courts hold that notice of acceptance is an essential element; without which a guaranty of future advances cannot rise higher than a mere proposal or offer, nor ascend to the rank of a binding agreement.

Mr. Parsons sums up the rule, as deduced and extracted from. the weight of authority, that where there is a guaranty for future operations, perhaps for one of uncertain amount, and offered by letter, there should, then be a distinct notice of acceptance, and also a notice of the amount advanced upon the guaranty, unless that amount be. the. same that is specified in the guaranty itself. (2 Pars. Cont., 5th ed., 13,)

The reason which underlies the-principle of notice is that the guarantor may know distinctly-his liability, and have the means of arranging- his relations with the party in whose favor the guaranty is given, and take from him security or indemnity. Whilst New York- and some- few of the other States have decided that notice of acceptance is unnecessary to bind the guarantor, still the contrary doctrine is ruled in- our OWn courts and the national courts, and. a large majority of-the courts of other States.

Messrs. Hare & Wallace, in their edition of Leading Cases, say that notwithstanding the objections which may be made to the *467doctrine wbicb makes notice essential to complete tbe obligation of prospective and contingent guaranties, it bas been transplanted from tbe courts of tbe United States into many of tbe State tribunals, and is now well-settled law in New England. Pennsylvania, Ohio, Missouri, Kentucky, Alabama, and some other parts of tbe Union. (2 Am. Lead. Cas;, 4tb ed., 73.)

It was formerly held that notice of an intention to accept and act under tbe guaranty was an obligation of tbe commercial ratber than tbe common law, and that it must be given immediately, or at all events without unnecessary delay. But the cases of Douglass v. Reynolds, supra, and Tbe Louisville Manuf. Co. v. Welch, 10 How. 461, are limited to a declaration that notice mu3t be given within a seasonable or reasonable time after what is called acceptance. And tbe latter decision establishes not only that a reasonable notice of what is done under tbe guaranty will be sufficient, but also that no delay in giving it will be a bar to tbe action unless it is productive of some injury to tbe guarantor.

■ Tbe better opinion, I am inclined to think, is that a general averment of notice is sufficient; and tbe question whether it be reasonable under all tbe circumstances of the case is one of evidence, wbicb should be left to tbe jury under proper instructions from tbe court. (Lawrence v. McCalmont, 2 How. 426; Louisville Manuf. Co. v. Welch, supra; Williams v. Stanton, 6 Sm. & M. 347; Walker v. Forbes, 25 Ala. 139.)

Eor tbe error of tbe court in giving the first and third instructions for tbe plaintiff, tbe judgment must be reversed and tbe cause remanded. Tbe other judges concur.

Shine having died since tbe submission of this cause, the clerk will enter up tbe judgment as of tbe last term nunc pro tunc,.