ORDER
In these consolidated cases, Bonin, a California state prisoner facing a sentence of death, appeals from the district court’s denial of his two petitions for habeas corpus relief pursuant to 18 U.S.C. § 2254. During the pendency of these appeals Bonin’s appointed counsel, the California State Public Defender (Public Defender), filed a request to withdraw as attorney of record which we denied in an unpublished order. The Public Defender subsequently filed a motion for reconsideration, arguing that, because its own ineffectiveness may constitute grounds for relief, conflict of interest concerns mandate the appointment of new counsel. After additional briefing and further review, we adhere to our original denial of the Public. Defender’s request to withdraw, and we deny the motion for reconsideration.
I
After a jury trial in Los Angeles, Bonin was sentenced on January 20, 1982, to death for the first degree murders of ten victims. On August 22, 1983, he was sentenced to death in Orange County for the first degree murders of four victims. On July 12, 1990, after his direct appeals failed and his requests for state habeas corpus relief were denied, Bonin filed a petition for a writ of habeas corpus in federal district court arising out of his Orange County convictions and sentence (Orange County case), and on February 7, 1991, from his Los Angeles convictions and sentence (Los Angeles case). The two cases, although not consolidated in the district court, were before the same district judge.
On April 19, 1991, following the Supreme Court’s decision in
McCleskey v. Zant,
No attempt was made to add any claims to the Los Angeles case until December 24, 1991, when Bonin filed a motion proposing to add five new claims. On January 7,1992, the district court dismissed Bonin’s motion to amend-the Los Angeles petition because (1) over seven months had passed since the May 13,1991, deadline with no justification for the delay, and (2) the court held that the five “new” claims were identical to claims Bonin *427 previously had attempted unsuccessfully to add to the Orange County case.
Later in January, the district court conducted a three day evidentiary hearing in both cases. The court issued its Order and Opinion denying Bonin’s Orange County petition on July 20, 1992. On August 18, 1992, Bonin filed a “Motion to Amend [Both] Petitions And For Belief From Judgment” setting forth six new claims that had never before been presented either on direct appeal, in state collateral proceedings, or to the district court. The court construed this pleading differently in the two cases: in the Orange County case, because the petition had already been denied, as a Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 60(b) motion for relief from judgment; in the Los Angeles ease, because no final judgment had yet been entered, as a Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 15(a) motion to amend the petition.
On September 29, 1992, the district court issued an order stating that it would treat the Rule 60(b) motion in the Orange County case as tantamount to a second petition, the new claims were abusive, and Bonin would have to satisfy McCleskey’s “cause and prejudice” test before it would reach the merits of the claims. After Bonin had an opportunity to submit a supplemental brief on whether he could satisfy this test, the district court, on October 6, 1992, denied the Orange County 60(b) motion. On November 9, 1992, the district court denied the Rule 15(a) motion in the Los Angeles case and on the same day issued its Order and Opinion denying Bonin’s Los Angeles petition. Bonin has appealed from the district court’s orders in both cases.
II
Because final judgment already had been entered in the Orange County case-when Bonin first sought to raise six new issues, the district court properly construed Bonin’s motion as a request for relief from the judgment pursuant to Rule 60(b). The district court was also correct in treating Bonin’s motion in the Los Angeles case as an untimely Rule 15(a) motion to amend the pleadings. The alleged ineffectiveness in the Orange County case relates to the question whether Bonin can establish cause .under McCleskey for bringing six abusive claims. In the Los Angeles ease, counsel’s incompetence is alleged to be relevant to the determination whether the district court abused its discretion in denying the motion to amend. Because the two cases were in significantly different postures when the issue of present counsel’s ineffectiveness was first presented, we will, address the request to withdraw as it relates to each case separately- :
A.
Along with Bonin’s supplemental brief on cause and prejudice filed with the district court in the Orange County case, the Public Defender asked to be relieved as counsel of record because of a conflict of interest stemming from the possibility that its own ineffectiveness in representing Bonin during his habeas proceedings might constitute the requisite “cause” for Bonin’s failure to raise the six new claims in a timely fashion. The" district court rejected the Public Defender’s' request, relying on
Coleman v. Thompson,
— U.S. -,----,
We were faced with a somewhat similar situation in
Harris v. Vasquez,
The Public Defender first argues that
McCleskey
is inapplicable in the Orange County case because Bonin had not filed a second habeas petition, but merely a motion for relief from judgment pursuant to Rule 60(b); thus, according to the Public Defender, the reasoning of
Harris
has no relevance. We disagree and join the Fourth, Eighth and Eleventh Circuits in holding that because a Rule 60(b) motion following the entry of final judgment in a habeas ease raises policy concerns similar to those implicated by a second petition, it is subject to the same cause and prejudice standard.
See Bolder v. Armontrout,
The Public Defender next contends that
Harris’s
statement that “[attorney error will constitute cause ... only, when it constitutes an independent sixth amendment violation,”
the Sixth Amendment right to counsel does not apply in habeas corpus actions. Indigent state prisoners applying for habeas corpus relief are not entitled to appointed counsel unless the circumstances of a particular case indicate that appointed counsel is necessary to prevent due process violations.
Id.
at 1196 (footnote omitted),
citing Kreiling v. Field,
Clearly, there is no constitutional right to counsel bn habeas.
See Harris,
The Public Defender also directs-our attention to language in
Coleman,
— U.S. at ---,
There is a practical reason why we will not follow the Public Defender’s recommendation. The actual impact of such an exception would be the likelihood of an infinite continuum of litigation in many criminal cases. If a petitioner has a Sixth Amendment right to competent counsel in his or her first state postconviction proceeding because that is the first forum in which the ineffectiveness of trial counsel can be alleged, it follows that the petitioner has a Sixth Amendment right to counsel in the second state postconviction proceeding, for that is the first forum in which he or she can raise a challenge based on counsel’s performance in the first state postconviction proceeding. Furthermore, because the petitioner’s first federal habeas petition will present the first opportunity to raise the ineffective assistance of counsel in the second state postconviction proceeding, it follows logically that the petitioner has a Sixth Amendment right to counsel in the first federal habeas proceeding as well. And so it would go. Because any Sixth Amendment violation constitutes cause,
McCleskey,
499 U.S. at -,
Next, the Public Defender points to dicta in
Coleman
to the effect that where the federal Constitution imposes on the state a responsibility to ensure that a petitioner was represented by competent counsel, the state must bear the cost of any resulting default. - U.S. at -,
First, California law is not relevant. The
Coleman
dicta on which the Public Defender relies addresses only situations in which federal constitutional principles mandate that states provide counsel.
See
— U.S. at -,
Although the United States Supreme Court has not held that due process or equal protection requires appointment of counsel to present collateral attacks on convictions, it has held that counsel must be appointed to represent the defendant on his first appeal as of right. Since the questions that may be raised on [collateral attack] are as crucial as those that may be raised on direct appeal, [Supreme Court precedent] precludes our holding that appointment of counsel in [collateral] proceedings rests solely in the discretion of the court.
The Public Defender also relies on Bonin’s “due process rights under California law to competent counsel in state death penalty ha-beas corpus proceedings,.” the violation of which “provides the independent constitutional violation required by
Coleman.”
But the California cases on which the Public Defender relies,
Shipman
and its progeny, do not create a California state law right to counsel; rather, they interpret the federal Constitution as providing such a right. As we have just demonstrated, this reasoning cannot be reconciled with recent Supreme Court doctrine. Even if California’s constitutional guarantees were interpreted to grant Bonin a right to counsel in state collateral
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proceedings, the deprivation of that state-law right would not be the “independent constitutional violation” of
Coleman,
because
Coleman
referred only to violations of the
federal
constitution.
See
— U.S. at ---,
Lastly, the Public Defender argues that the Sixth Amendment right to counsel extended to Bonin’s first state habeas petition because, pursuant to California procedure, this petition was filed at the same time as the first appeal as of right, to which the Sixth Amendment protections undeniably attach.
See, e.g., People v. Pope,
As in
Harris,
the Public Defender has identified no point at which its alleged incompetence could have amounted to a constitutional violation. Thus, its ineffectiveness is no basis for any finding of cause to excuse the abusive claims presented in the Rule 60(b) motion, and under
Harris
the Orange County case presents no grounds for granting the Public Defender’s request to withdraw.
See
B.
Because no final judgment had been rendered at the time' of filing, the district court correctly did not rely on McCleskey when it denied Bonin’s. Los Angeles motion, as the issue of cause is not relevant. It may be argued that the district court abused its discretion in denying Bonin’s motion to amend, because the Public Defender may be placed in the ethically troubling position of having to litigate the question of its own competence. But we are not faced with that issue. As we have stated, the Public Defender has identified two arenas in which its performance may have been sub-par: (1) Bo-nin’s pursuit of collateral relief in the California courts and (2) the federal habeas eases from which he now.appeals. It will be unnecessary for us to consider counsel’s performance in either forum to decide these appeals.
The Public Defender represents that Bonin is likely to raise the incompetence of his state and federal habeas counsel in seeking a remand of the Los Angeles case. But such claims are not properly raised on direct appeal.
United States v. Robinson,
True, if the record on appeal is sufficiently developed to permit review and determination of the -issue, or if the legal representation is so inadequate that it obviously violates the Sixth Amendment, we have discretion to consider the claim.
Id.
Nevertheless, the ineffective-assistance issues supposedly present in this case are not straightforward. Nor' does the record disclose any
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obvious Sixth Amendment violation, since the Sixth Amendment is inapplicable to habeas representation, nor an obvious due process violation, since we have held that the Due Process Clause is not the appropriate vehicle for pursuing ineffective-assistance claims. Furthermore, many questions remain concerning the Public Defender’s decision to delay the presentation of the six new claims. For example, the record before us does not establish whether this delay came about by accident or stratagem. Finally, we observe that present counsel’s alleged ineffectiveness was never even raised before the district court in the Los Angeles case as a reason for granting Bonin’s motion to amend. We will not consider this issue on which the district court never had an opportunity to rule.
See Willard,
Ill
Bonin has no ineffective-assistance claims relevant to the merits of either of these appeals. As such, there is no possibility that a conflict of interest stemming from such claims will arise during the course of our proceedings. The Public Defender’s motion for reconsideration of its request to withdraw is, therefore, denied.
MOTION DENIED.
