delivered the opinion of the Court.
These appeals challenge the validity of the Labor Relations Act of the State of New York as applied to appellants to permit unionization of their foremen. Conflict is asserted between it and the National Labor Relations Act and hence with the Commerce Clause of the Constitution.
After enactment by Congress of the National Labor Relations Act, July 5, 1935, 49 Stat. 449, 29 U. S. C. § 151,
et seq.,
New York adopted a State Labor Relations Act
“The Board shall decide in еach case whether, in order to insure to employees the full benefit of their right to self-organization [and] to collective bargaining, and otherwise to effectuate the policies of this Act, the unit appropriate for the purposes of collective bargaining shall be the employer unit, multiple employer unit, craft unit, plant unit, or [subdivision thereof] any other unit; provided, however, that in any case where the majority of employees of a particular craft shall so decide the board shall designate such craft as a unit appropriate for the purpose of collective bargaining ”
The procedures prescribed for the two boards for investigation, certification, and hearing on representation units and for their election are substantially the same except that the State law adds the following limitation not found in the Federal Act: “. . . provided, however, that the board shall not have authority to investigate any question or controversy between individuals or groups within the same labor organization or between labor organizations affiliated with the same parent labor organization.” Laws of New York, 1937, Chap. 443, as amended, Laws 1942, Chap. 518, 30 McKinney’s Consolidated Laws of New York, § 705.3.
Both of these labor controversies arose in manufacturing plants located in New York where the companies employ large staffs of foremen to supervise a much larger force of labor. But both concerns have such a relation to interstate commerce that, for the reasons stated in
National Labor Relations Board
v.
Jones & Laughlin Steel Corp.,
At the time the courts of the State of New York were considering this issue, the question whether the Federal Act would authorize or permit unionization of foremen was in controversy and was unsettled until our decision in
Packard Motor Car Co.
v.
N. L. R. B.,
In determining whether exclusion of state power will or will not be implied, we well may consider the respective relation of federal and state power to the general subject matter as illustrated by the case in hand. These companies are authorized to do business in New York State, they operate large manufacturing plants in that state, they draw their labor supply from its residents, and the impact of industrial strife in their plants is immediately felt by state police, welfare and other departments. Their labor relations are primarily of interest to the state, are within its competence legally and practically to regulate, and until recently were left entirеly to state control. Thus, the subject matter is not so “intimately blended and intertwined with responsibilities of the national government” that its nature alone raises an inference of exclusion.
Cf. Hines
v.
Davidowitz,
Indeed, the subject matter is one reachable, and one which Congress has reached, under the federal commerce power, not because it is interstate commerce but because under the doctrine given classic expression in the
Shreveport
case, Congress can reach admittedly local and intrastate activities “having such a close and substantial relation to interstate traffic that the control is essential or appropriate to the security of that traffic, to the efficiency of the interstate service, and to the maintenance of conditions under which interstate commerce may be conducted upon fair terms and without molestation or hindrance.”
In the National Labor Relations Act, Congress has sought to reach some aspects of the employer-employee relation out of which such interferences arise. It has dealt with the subject or relationship but partially, and has left outside of the scope of its delegation other closely related matters. Where it leaves the employer-employee relation free of regulation in some aspects, it implies that in such matters federal policy is indifferent, and since it is indifferent to what the individual of his own volition may do we can only assume it to be equally indifferent to what he may do under the compulsion of the state. Such was the situation in
Allen-Bradley Local
v.
Board,
It is clear that the failure of the National Labor Relations Board to entertain foremen’s petitions was of the
Comparison of the State and Federal statutes will show that both governments have laid hold of the same relationship for regulation, and it involves the same employers and the same employees. Each has delegated to an administrative authority a wide discretion in applying this plan of regulation to specific cases, and they are governed by somewhat different standards. Thus, if both laws are upheld, two administrative bodies are asserting a discretionary control over the same subject matter, conducting hearings, supervising elections and determining appropriate units for bargaining in the same plant. They might come out with the same determination, or they might come out with conflicting ones as they have in the past.
Cf. Matter of Creamery Package Mfg. Co.,
34 N. L. R. B. 108; Wisc. Emp. Rel. Bd. Case III, No. 348 E-117. But the power to decide a matter can hardly be made dependent on the way it is decided. As said by Mr. Justice Holmes for the Court, “When Congress has taken the particular subject-matter in hand coincidence is as ineffective as opposi
The National and State Boards have made a commendable effort to avoid conflict in this overlapping state of the statutes. We find nothing in their negotiations, however, which affects either the construction of the federal statute or the question of constitutional power insofar as they are involved in this case, sincе the National Board made no concession or delegation of power to deal with this subject. The election of the National Board to decline jurisdiction in certain types of cases, for budgetary or other reasons presents a different problem which we do not now decide.
We therefore conclude that it is beyond the power of New York State to apply its policy to these appellants as
Reversed.
Separate opinion of
in which Mr. Justice Murphy and Mr. Justice Rutledge join.
The legal issue in these cases derives from our decision in
Packard Motor Car Co.
v.
National Labor Relations Board,
If the Court merely held that, having given the National Board jurisdiction over foremen Congress also gave it discretion to determine that it may be undesirable, as a matter of industrial relations, to compel recognition of foremen’s unions; that the Board had so exercised its discretion
The inability of the National Board to еxercise its dormant powers because of lack of funds ought not to furnish a more persuasive reason for finding that concurrent State power may function than a deliberate exercise of judgment by the National Board that industrial relations having both national and state concern can most effectively be promoted by an appropriate division of administrative resources between the National and the State Boards. This states abstractly a very practical situation. Based on the realization that as a practical matter the National Board could not effectuate the policies of the Act committed to it over the whole range of its authority, an arrangement was worked out whereby the National Board leaves to the State Board jurisdiction over so-called local industries covered by the federal Act, while the State Board does not entertain matters over which the National Board has consistently taken jurisdiction. This practical Federal-State working arrangement, arrived at by those
Since we are dealing with aspects of commerce between the States that are not legally outside State action by virtue of the Commerce Clause itself, New York has authority to act so long as Congress has not interdicted her action. While what the State does she does on sufferance, in ascertaining whether Congress has allowed State action we are not to consider the matter as though Congress were conferring a mere bounty, the extent of which must be viewed with a thrifty eye. When construing federal legislation that deals with matters that also lie within the authority, because within the proper interests, of the States, we must be mindful that we are part of the delicate process of adjusting the interacting areas of National and State authority over commerce. The inevitable extension of federal authority over economic enterprise has absorbed the authоrity that was previously left to the States. But in legislating, Congress is not indulging in doctrinaire,
This is an old problem and the considerations involved in its solution are commonplace. But results not always harmonious have from time to time been drawn from the same precepts. In law also the emphasis makes the song. It may make a decisive difference what view judges have of the place of the States in our national life when they come to apply the governing principle that for an Act of Congress completely to displace a State law “the repugnance or conflict should be direct and positive, so that the two acts could not be reconciled or consistently stand together.”
Sinnot
v.
Davenport,
Our general problem was only recently canvassed in the three opinions in
Hill
v.
Florida,
In the
Minnesota Rate Cases,
No doubt, as indicated, cases have not always dealt with such scrupulous regard for State action where Congress has not patently terminated it. Metaphor—“occupied the field”—has at times done service for close analysis. But the rules of accommodation that have been most consistently professed as well as the dominant current of decisions make for and not against the
modus vivendi
achieved by the two agencies in the labor relations field, which the Government, as
amicus curiae,
here sponsored. Such an arrangement assures the effectuation of the policies which underlie both the National Labor Relations Act and the “Little Wagner Act” of New York in a manner agreed upon by the two Boards for deаling with matters affecting interests of common concern. “Where the Government has provided for collaboration the courts should not find conflict.”
Union Brokerage Co.
v.
Jensen,
What is before us is a very real and practical situation. The vast range of jurisdiction which the National Labor Relations Act has conferred upon the Board raises problems of administration wholly apart from available funds. As a result of this Court's decision in
National Labor Relations Board
v.
Fainblatt,
The National Board’s business explains the reason and supports the reasonableness behind its desire to share burdens that may be the State’s concern no less than the Nation’s. The Board’s Annual Reports show increasing arrears. At the end of the fiscal year 1944, 2602 cases were pending; at the end of 1945, 3244; at the end of 1946, there were 4605 unfinished cases. A shrewd critic has thus expressed the considerations that in the past have often lain below the surface of merely doctrinal applications: “Formally the enterprise is one of the interpretation of the Act of Congress to discover its scope. Actually it is often the enterprise of reaching a judgment whether the situation is so adequatеly handled by national prescription that the impediment of further state requirements is to be deemed a bane rather than a blessing.” T. R. Powell,
Current Conflicts Between the Commerce Clause and State Police Power,
12 Minn. L. Rev. 607. In the submission by the Board before us, we have the most authorita
APPENDIX.
Documents Indicating Understanding Between the New York and the National Labor Relations Boards
New York State Labor Relations Board
250 West 57th Street
NEW YORK 19
William E. Grady, Jr.
General Counsel
July 10,1945.
Alvin J. Rockwell, Esquire
General Counsel,
National Labor Relations Board,
Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Rockwell: The Board has examined your memorandum of our conference of April 20, 1945 and considers that it represents a fair statement of the proceedings.
As to insurance companies (page 6 of your memo), you will recall that we mentioned our prior experience with
Best regards.
Sincerely,
/s/ William E. Grady, Jr.
National Labor Relations Board,
Washington 25, D. C., July 26,1945.
William E. Grady, Jr.,
General Counsel,
New York State Labor Relations Board,
250 West 57th Street,
New York City 19, N. Y.
Dear Mr. Grady: In Mr. Rockwell’s absence on vacation this week, I am replying to your letter of July 10.
Mr. Rockwell’s memorandum of our conference of April 20 and your letter were discussed with and approved by the Members of the Board.
We are, accordingly, circulating copies of this memorandum to the membеrs of our staffs in the Buffalo and New York City offices. This memorandum and your letter will hereafter be followed as a guide in relations between the two Boards as regards cases arising in New York State.
Sincerely yours,
/s/ Oscar S. Smith
Oscar S. Smith,
Director of Field Division.
A conference was held at the offices of the New York State Labor Relations Board on Friday, April 20, 1945, attended by Father Kelley, Chairman, and Board Members Goldberg and Lorenz, Executive Secretary Goldberg, General Counsel Grady, and Associate General Counsel Feldblum, of the New York State Labor Relations Board, and by Field Director Smith, New York Regional Director Howard LeBaron, General Counsel Rockwell, and New York Regional Attorney Perl, of the National Labor Relations Board. The subject of the conference was the proper division of jurisdiction between the National and State Boards.
This conference followed an eаrlier conference held on January 9, 1945, in Washington, between Messrs. Smith and Rockwell and Buffalo Regional Director Ryder, representing the NLRB, and Messrs. Goldberg and Feldblum, representing the New York Board. At the conference in Washington, the principal subject discussed was the action of the State Board in entertaining election petitions involving the employees of large interstate manufacturing establishments over which the National Board has customarily asserted jurisdiction. The cases in question related to petitions filed by labor organizations which sought to be certified as representatives of units of supervisory employees or, in one case, a labor organization which sought to represent non-supervisory employees but whose membership was composed of a substantial number of supervisors. At the time of the January conference, the Board’s decision in the
Packard
case, 61 N. L. R. B., No. 3, had not been issued; it appeared that in certifying a labor organization for supervisory employees thе State
The New York conference began with consideration of Father Boland’s letter to Mr. Madden dated July 12, 1937, which has constituted the principal basis of understanding between the two Boards during the ensuing years. The Boland letter states:
Unless there are unusual circumstances, the New York State Labor Relations Board will assume jurisdiction over all cases arising in the following trades and industries, without clearing, except as a matter of record, with the National Board’s officials:
1. Retail stores,
2. Small industries which receive all or practically all raw materials from within the State of New York, and do not ship any material proportion of their product outside the State,
3. Service trades (such as laundries),
4. Office and residential buildings,
5. Small and clearly local public utilities, (This includes local traction companies, as well as gas and electric light corporations.)
6. Storage warehouses,
7. Construction operations,
8. Other obviously local businesses.
A copy of the letter of July 12, 1937, is attached to this memorandum.
At the time of the preparation of the letter of July 12 and the conference which preceded it and upon which it is based, there was relatively little case law as to the jurisdiction under the commerce clause of the National Board under the National Act. Since that time there has been a large number of decisions in the federal circuit courts of appeals and several in the Supreme Court which have substantially extended the Board’s jurisdiction beyond that which was understood to exist in July 1937. To take only one pertinent example: In July 1937 the Board had not asserted jurisdiction over retail establishments. Since 1937 the Board has accepted a considerable number of cases involving retail establishments such as department stores and the Board’s power in this respect has been sustained by the courts. Notwithstanding this extension of jurisdiction under the National Act, the National and State Boards, respectively, have, in general, followed the understanding reflected by the letter of July 12, 1937. Thus, in New York State the National Board has not asserted jurisdiction over retail establishments. The representatives at the conference of April 20 expressed the view that, by and large, the understanding had worked out well as applied to the types of businesses there dealt with. The position was repeatedly expressed by the representatives of both National and State Boards that as a working matter the jurisdiction between the two Boards must be allotted on the basis of the type of indus
Following reference to the letter of July 12, there was detailed discussion of the eight categories there listed, which are quoted above. The gist of this discussion was as follows:
Retail stores.
Where the same company operates retail stores and also does a substantial interstate mail order business from within New York State, representatives of the National Board pointed out that probably the National Act should be applied to the company. The understanding was reached that before the State Board asserted jurisdiction in the future over any such companies, the case would be cleared with the National Board through the New York City or Buffalo offices, depending upon the region in which the case arose.
Service trades.
Where a New York concern is in the business of furnishing guards, window washers, laundry, or some other type of' service within the State, it was felt that the business is essentially local in character and should be subject to the State Act even though the services are
In addition to the foregoing lines of activity, referred to in the letter of July 12, 1937, two other businesses not dealt with in that letter were also discussed.
Insurance companies.
In the past both the State and the National Boards have intermittently asserted jurisdiction over insurance companies. So far as small insurance, bonding, casualty companies, etc., doing business primarily within the State are concerned, it was felt that the State Board should occupy this field. So far as the large national companies are concerned, however, thе representatives of the National Board expressed the view that hereafter cases involving such companies should be handled by the latter Board. In this connection it was pointed out that as organization has matured among the large companies, State-wide and even larger units are being established and that this type of activity had therefore advanced to the stage where it was peculiarly the interest of the National Board. It was agreed that the State Board would not entertain any cases involving the large national companies without prior clearance with the National Board.
Newspapers.
The National Board has taken jurisdiction
Concurrent
jurisdiction,
2
The letter of July 12, 1937, left open the question of “concurrent jurisdiction”—by which, it is understood, was meant the procedure to be followed in the case of employers who might simultaneously be subject to the requirements of both the State and National Acts. The letter stated: “So far as concurrent jurisdiction is concerned, we assume that even a tentative understanding must await mutual study of the memorandum which Mr. Fahy is now preparing.” It
At the conference of April 20 the representatives of the National Board pointed to the recent decision in the
Packard
case and suggested that the State Board should adhere to its general policy of leaving all cases involving large manufacturing establishments doing interstate business to the National Board. The impracticability of both Boards intermittently asserting jurisdiction over the same employer was emphasized, and in addition the question was raised whether under the Federal Constitution the State Board could lawfully enforce any requirement against such emplоyers which was inconsistent with or which imposed restraints in addition to those enforced by the National Board. The representatives of the New York Board agreed that cases of this type presented a legal problem but were of the view that it was advisable
It was believed that it would be helpful to the work of both Boards if lists of cases entertained within the State were periodically exchanged. The details of this were left to be worked out.
New York State Labor Relations Board,
July 12,1987.
Honorable J. Warren Madden,
National Labor Relations Board,
Washington, D. C.
Dear Mr. Madden: We wish, in the first place, to thank you and your colleagues for your warm reception of last Wednesday. It is gratifying to know that we can look forward to such wholehearted cooperation from your Board and its staff. We will gladly reciprocate.
As requested, we outline our recollection of the understandings reached. So far as concurrent jurisdiction is
Unless there are unusual circumstances, the New York Statе Labor Relations Board will assume jurisdiction over all cases arising in the following trades and industries, without clearing, except as a matter of record, with the National Board’s officials:
1. Retail stores,
2. Small industries which receive all or practically all raw materials from within the State of New York, and do not ship any material proportion of their product outside the State,
3. Service trades (such as laundries),
4. Office and residential buildings,
5. Small and clearly local public utilities, (this includes local traction companies, as well as gas and electric light corporations),
6. Storage warehouses,
7. Construction operations,
8. Other obviously local businesses.
Clearance is certainly going to be required in the case of industries where the raw materials or most of them come from without the State, but the product is not shipped beyond the borders of New York. (The question here is as to the breadth of application of the “come to rest” doctrine of the ScAechter case.)
You are familiar, of course, with Section 715 of our statute, part of which reads as follows: “Application of article. The provisions of this article shall not apply to the employees of any employer who concedes to and agrees with the board that such employees are subject to and protected by the provisions of the national labor relations act or the federal railway labor act . . .”. The New York State Board will undoubtedly take the position that the
This however, does not solve all of the problems created by the Section, since it is clear that even the agreement of this Board with the employer will not necessarily bestow federal jurisdiction under the Constitution. Presumably every time such a concession is proffered by an employer, our Board will have to clear with the National Board officials in the same way it would clear with them if no such concession were made.
It is our understanding that we should clear оn all questions of jurisdiction with the Regional Directors in New York City and Buffalo in the first instance, and that you will instruct your Directors to reciprocate by clearing with us all doubtful cases which first come to their attention.
Whenever this Board and either of your Regional Directors find themselves unable to agree, the matter will be taken up with you at once.
We would appreciate knowing that your recollection and understanding of the above are in accord with our own.
Very sincerely yours,
s/ John P. Boland
(Dr.) John P. Boland, Chairman.
National Labor Relations Board
MINUTES OF AUGUST 16,1946
An informal inquiry was made to the Board by United Financial Employees Association asking whether the Board would entertain a Section 9 representation petition on behalf of the employees of Harris Upham and Company, a New York brokerage house. The Board was also
Dated at Washington, D. C.
August 16, 1946.
Donn N. Bent
Donn N. Bent,
Executive Secretary.
Approved:
s/ P.M.H.
8/ J. M. H.
Certified to be a true and correct copy.
s/ Donn N. Bent,
Donn N. Bent,
Executive Secretary.
Notes
In Consolidated Edison Co. v. N. L. R. B., 305 U. S. 197, 223, the Supreme Court indicated that in deciding whether or not to assert jurisdiction the National Board could properly take into account the existence of State protective legislation, such as the New York State Labor Relations Act.
The National Act contains no provision authorizing the National Board to enter into compacts or agreements with State Boards, but would seem to require the National Board in each case to exercise its discretion whether or not to proceed. It is believed, nevertheless, that understandings such as that embodied in the letter of July 12, 1937, although of no legal effect, assist both Boards in determining the proper disposition of particular cases as they arise.
See
Davega-City Radio, Inc.
v.
New York Labor Relations Board,
