Pеtitioner Barry Wayne Brown appeals from a dismissal of his petition for habeas corpus relief by the United States District Court for the Southern District of Florida. Relevant facts are as follows: On March 2, 1965, petitioner Brown, who was only sixteen years old at the time, was arrested as a suspect in two armed robberies and a murder. He was taken before the juvenile court for a determination whether that court would waive jurisdiction over him and allow him to be tried as an adult. Affording Brown no counsel and giving no notice to his parents, the juvenilе court conducted a waiver hearing and determined, pursuant to his caseworker’s recommendation, that Brown should be tried as an adult, in that all rehabilitative efforts and facilities had been exhausted. Specifically, prior to his arrest in March of 1965 on the armеd robbery and murder charges, Brown had been before the juvenile court four times for armed robbery, assault, and possession of a concealed weapon and had once escaped from a juvenile detention center.
Subsequently, Brown was tried as аn adult, convicted on the armed robbery charge, and sentenced on December 29,1965 to life imprisonment. Paroled on February 2, 1971, Brown was arrested and convicted of an armed robbery occurring while on parole and was sentenced to another life sentence to run consecutively to the life sentence imposed in 1965, his parole from that conviction having been revoked. Later, Brown received an additional three year sentence and a five year sentence.
In his petition for habeas corpus relief, Brown alleges that the waiver hearing held
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by the juvenile court in 1965 did not comport with due process requirements as mandated by
Kent v. United States,
Two issues are before this court: first, whether Kent should be applied retroactively to the facts in the present case, and second, if the answer to the first question is yes, whether the reconstructed waiver hearing was a proper remedy for the Kent violation. The threshold question then is the retroactivity of Kent. Research of the issue reveals the Circuits to be split on this question, with the D.C. Circuit and Ninth Circuit 4 opposed to and the Fourth Circuit 5 in favor of retroactive application of Kent. After careful analysis of the issue, we find the reasoning of the D.C. and Ninth Circuits more persuasive and, therefore, hold that Kent is not to be given retroactive effect.
In
Harris v. Procunier,
In distinguishing the right to counsel cases which require retroactive applicаtion from all other cases where retroactive application has been generally denied the Supreme Court stated the following: ‘Where the major purpose of new constitutional doctrine is to overcome an aspect of the criminal trial that substantially impairs the truth-finding function and so raises serious questions about the accuracy of guilty verdicts in past trials, the new rule has been given complete retroactive éffect . . . ’ (Footnotes omitted). Williams v. United States [401 U.S. 646 ,91 S.Ct. 1148 ,28 L.Ed.2d 388 ] at 653.
Harris,
Analysis of the second and third criteria likewise led the court to hold
Kent
nоt retroactive. That is, the court found that law enforcement officers had substantially relied on the
pre-Kent
standards. In addition, the court noted that the effect of a retroactive application of the new standard on the administration of justice would be “devastating.”
Harris,
While the D.C. Circuit likewise held
Kent
to be nonretroactive in
Mordecai v. United States,
In this case the passage of time has made an appropriate remedy not merely inconvenient or even impracticable, but impossible. If the waiver in this case was improper bеcause the appellant enjoyed neither the assistance of counsel nor a hearing, the correct remedy would be a new waiver hearing to determine wheth *157 er the original decision by the Juvenile Court to waive its jurisdiction was correct. Since the appellant — and most others similarly situated — is now over 21 years of age, the new proceeding would have to take place in the District Court.
In Haziel v. United States [131 U.S. App.D.C. 298,404 F.2d 1275 , 1282 (1968)] . we acknowledged:
The Juvenile Court may well decide that a hearing at this late date to determine whether . . . waiver would have been proper more than two years ago is so artificial as to be meaningless. Certainly we cannot gainsay the difficulty of determining what rehabilitative strategy might then have worked, and whether resources were then available to implement any such strategy.
The waiver in this eаse occurred eight years ago, and a new waiver hearing would be exponentially more artificial than in Haziel. Even more important, however, is the fact that no remedy is now available if the decision to waive jurisdiction in 1961 was substantively incorrect. The aрpellant is now 24.' He is, in simple fact, no longer a juvenile. Even if nonpunitive rehabilitation in the juvenile process would have been the proper path in 1961, society can no longer offer what was then, rightly or wrongly, denied.
Id. at 1138. (footnotes omitted) (emphasis added.) Likеwise, Barry Wayne Brown is now 27 years old — an age that puts him well beyond the jurisdiction of the juvenile court. Like the defendant in Mordecai, his waiver hearing would be difficult to reconstruct after the passage of twelve years. 8 More importantly, if we should determine that the juvenile court judgе’s decision to waive jurisdiction was improper, we have no appropriate remedy to grant Brown. Obviously, the juvenile court cannot now take, over Brown’s case, in that it no longer possesses jurisdiction over him and its attempts to now offer “non-punitive” rehаbilitation to a 27 year old man who has been in prison for twelve years and who has three more sentences to serve would be ludicrous. Accordingly, because we find that the absence of counsel at Brown’s waiver hearing, a jurisdictional proceeding, did not impair the truth-finding function of the trial as to guilt or innocence 9 and that proper relief would be impossible to mold in *158 that Brown’s alleged ultímate deprivation— the right to be tried in juvenile court— could not now be remedied, we hold Kent to be nonretroactive and affirm the district court’s denial of his petition.
Notes
. Although the Supreme Court does not make explicit whether its holding in
Kent
is based on the District of Columbia statute involved in that case or on a constitutional mandate, courts have interpreted
Kent
to hold that the requirement of counsel at a juvenile waiver hearing is constitutionally required. See e.
g., Geboy v. Gray,
. Pursuant to Kemplen and Brown, the hearing was broken down into two stages. At the first stage, thе state court judge was required to examine all available evidence to determine whether, within a moral and legal certainty, the juvenile court judge could not have ruled differently had petitioner been afforded counsel at the juvenile waiver proceeding. If the state court could not conclude within a legal and moral certainty that counsel could not have influenced a different ruling on waiver, it would than proceed to a nunc pro tunc hearing at which it would determine what decision the juvenile court judge would probаbly have made had counsel been available to proffer additional information. In this case, the state court determined that the factors in favor of waiver of juvenile court jurisdiction were so strong that counsel could not have effected a differеnt result. Accordingly, it did not proceed to the second stage of the hearing.
. Brown also argues that the state hearing did not fairly support the state court finding and that the hearing, itself, was unfair in that he was not allowed to be present.
.
Harris v. Procunier,
.
Kemplen v. Maryland,
. While Bazelon, Burger, and Leventhal аre listed as the panel that decided Mordecai, a footnote indicates that Justice (then Judge) Burger did not participate in its disposition. While Judge Leventhal agreed with Judge Bazelon as to the' result of the case, he disagreed with his reasoning and, therefore, wrote a sеparate concurring opinion. Accordingly, there is no majority opinion in the case.
. Judge Leventhal would hold that each of these two criteria argue against retroactive application of Kent.
. There was no court reporter at the originаl waiver hearing and, accordingly, no transcript of that proceeding. The juvenile judge who presided at the original hearing in 1965 did not recall it. The only relevant evidence before the state court judge at the second hearing was the record of the defendant as a juvenile and the testimony of the defendant’s juvenile probation officer that in his opinion Barry Wayne Brown should have been tried as an adult in 1965, in that he had repeatedly failed to respond to juvenile rehabilitative techniques.
. We are cognizant of Judge Hufstedler’s argument in her dissenting opinion in
Harris,
Accordingly, in response to Judge Hufstedler’s observations, we do not here hold that the “truth-finding” function alone of a new rule determines its retroactivity. What we do hold is that the absence of a remedy coupled with the fact that the Kent rule doés not call into question .'the accuracy of a guilty verdict obtained in a proceeding held violative of Kent, leads us to conclude that Kent should not be applied retroactively.
