Jоnathan Collignon, like many people with a mental illness, was able to lead a productive life while on his prescribed medication. But when he stopped taking his medication his schizophrenia returned. He was arrested for damaging property and placed in the Milwaukee County Jail. After 17 days, he was released on bail to his parents. Shortly thereafter he was temporarily detained by the Shorewood (Wisconsin) Police Department, who also released him to his parents. The next day he committed suicide. Jonathan’s estate and his parents sued Milwaukee County and one of its psychiatrists as well as Shorewood and several of its police officers, claiming that their action or inaction had violated ' Jonathan’s federal constitutional rights, causing him pain and suffering and leading to his suicide. The district court granted judgment on the pleadings for the *985 Shorewood defendants and granted summary judgment for the County defendants. Because we conclude that the pleadings and record in this case fail to establish any federal constitutional violation, we affirm.
I. Background
We relate the facts in the light most favorable to the plaintiffs.
See Morrow v. Wal-Mart Stores, Inc.,
In January 1993 Jonathan was released from MCMHC based at least partly on the condition that he would continue to take his medication. But Jonathan soon stopped taking his medication and his mental health deteriorated until on April 5, 1993, he was arrested by the Milwaukee Police Department and charged with criminal damage to property. The police took Jonathan to the Milwaukee County Jail and because of his mental illness and past suicide attempt, the jail staff placed Jonathan on the jail’s highest level of suicide watch, which required jail personnel to check on him at least once every 15 minutes.
On April 7, two days after Jonathan entered the jail, the jail’s psychiatrist, 'Dr. Grace Downing, met with him for the first time. Dr. Downing discussed Jonathan’s mental health history with him, including his prior suicide attempt and his resistance to taking medications because of their side effects. Dr. Downing decided that because Jonathan was reluctant to take medications, the best course of action was to develop a “therapeutic alliance” with him. She prescribed a non-therapeutic dose of Thorazine (25mg per day). Although Dr. Downing knew such a small dosage would have no effect on Jonathan’s schizophrenia, it would also not have the side effects that he so feared. She hoped to cultivate a willingness on his part to eventually take a therapeutic dosage. On April 12,1993, Dr. Downing had a follow-up meeting with Jonathan. She increased his Thorazine dosage to 50 mg per day, which still was non-therapeutic. (Due to a clerical error by the jail’s nursing staff, Jonathan did not receive this medication on three consecutive days: April 19, 20, and 21.)
On April 13, 1993, Jonathan met with psychiatrist George Palermo as part of a court-ordered competency еvaluation. Dr. Palermo’s report, submitted to the court the next day, concluded that Jonathan suffered from paranoid schizophrenia but that he was nonetheless competent to stand trial. On April 20, the court accepted Dr. Palermo’s report and found Jonathan competent. The court set his bail at $200, with the conditions that he continue to take his medication and that he be monitored by Wisconsin Correction Services (WCS), which -is a private entity that contracts with Milwaukee County to provide, among other services, bail monitoring and follow-up medical, social, and psychiatric services. On April 22, Jonathan’s father, Marc, and his mother, Barbara Ann, posted the required $200 to bail him out. The Collignons met with WCS social worker Linda Hitz, who sсheduled a follow-up meeting for the next afternoon.
Before his detention, Jonathan had been living with his father and stepmother, and he went home with them after leaving the jail. Shortly after 6:00 p.m. that evening, the elder Collignon and his wife laid down for a nap. When they awoke a few hours later, Jonathan was gone. They discovered that he had thrown away many of his personal belongings. Jonathan’s father and stepmother went to the Shorewood Police and asked for their help in finding Jonathan. They told the *986 officer on duty about Jonathan’s mental health history and his strange behavior that evening. In response, the Shorewood Police posted a missing persons bulletin to about 50 other law enforcement agencies. Around midnight that evening, acting on the bulletin, a University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee police officer, who knew Jonathan from his time at UWM as a student, found Jonathan on campus and took him into custody. Two Shore-wood officers came to pick up Jonathan shortly thereafter, and transported him back to the Shorewood Police Department. There, officers interviewed him and released him at about 1:30 a.m. He again went home with his father and stepmother.
The next morning, at about 9:00 a.m., Jonathan’s father saw him come downstairs and quickly leave. The elder Collignon ran outside and saw his son walking east. Marc Collignon did not seek the aid of the police as he had done the night before; rather he waited to leave home until about 12:15 p.m. to pick up his wife from wоrk to go to the appointment with WCS. Marc Collignon and his wife apparently believed Jonathan would meet them at WCS for the appointment. But Jonathan never showed up, and Marc and his wife left after waiting about 15 minutes. In the meantime, Jonathan had gone to the Hyatt Regency in Milwaukee and gone up to the eighteenth floor. The Hyatt’s guest rooms on each floor surround a central atrium, which is open from the lobby all the way up to the eighteenth floor. Jonathan climbed over the short wall separating him from the atrium and hung over the edge. A hotel employee spotted him and ran towards him calling out for Jonathan to hold on, but before the employee could get to Jonathan he let go and fell to his death. When Jonathаn’s father and stepmother arrived home that afternoon, they had a message from the Shorewood Police. When they returned the call, a detective came to meet them and informed them of Jonathan’s death.
On May 6, 1994, Jonathan’s estate and his parents filed this suit against Milwaukee County, Dr. Downing (individually and in her official capacity), the Village of Shorewood, its insurance company, three of Shorewood’s police officers (individually and in their official capacities), the Hyatt Regency, and its insurance company. The complaint asserted claims under 42 U.S.C. § 1983 against the County and Shorewood defendants for federal constitutional violations, and asserted Wisconsin statutory and common-law negligence claims аgainst all the defendants. On March 26, 1996, the district court (Judge Reynolds) granted summary judgment to the Hyatt on all the plaintiffs’ claims against it, and granted judgment on the pleadings for the Shore-wood defendants on the plaintiffs’ federal claims. The case was later transferred to Judge Clevert, and on February 18,1998, the district court granted summary judgment to the County defendants on both the state and federal claims and to the Shorewood defendants on the remaining state law claims. The plaintiffs have not appealed from the district court’s rulings regarding them state law claims against any of the defendants. In this appeal, then, we need only address the district court’s decision to grant summary judgment for the County defendants and judgment on the pleadings for the Shore-wood defendаnts on the plaintiffs’ federal claims.
II. Analysis
A. Summary Judgment for the County Defendants
Our review of the district court’s grant of summary judgment is de novo, and we must apply the now familiar standard to determine whether the County defendants are entitled to a judgment as a matter of law. The plaintiffs base their claims against Milwaukee County and Dr. Downing on 42 U.S.C. § 1983, which provides that “[ejvery person who, under color of statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State ... subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States ... to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law....” The plaintiffs claim that Dr. Downing and Milwaukee County deprived Jonathan, a pre-trial detainee, of his rights under the Fourteenth Amendment, which prohibits a state from “depriving] any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law.” It is now well settled that pre-trial detainees are protected by the *987 Fourteenth Amendment’s Due Process Clause rather than the Eighth Amendment’s prohibition against cruel and unusual punishment, which applies only to convicted persons. See Estate of Cole v. Fromm, 94 F.3d 254, 259 n. 1 (7th Cir.1996). But the precise scope of the due process protections are not well settled. Thus, we first must determine what the appropriate test under the Fourteenth Amendment is.
The plaintiffs do not assert that Jonathan received inadequate procedural safeguards before Dr. Downing or Milwaukee County deprived him of life or liberty. Their claims are under the substantive component of the Due Process Clause, that is, they assert that the actions (or inactions) of Dr. Downing and Milwaukee County were in themselves unconstitutional. See,
e.g., Collins v. City of Harker Heights,
[t]he [Due Process] Clause is phrased as a limitation on the State’s power to act, not as a guarantee of certain minimum levels of safety and security. It forbids the State itself to deprive individuals of life, liberty, or property without “due process of law,” but its language cannot fairly be extended to impose an affirmative obligation on the State to ensure that those interests do not come to harm through other means.
The Court held that “[a]s a general matter, then, we conclude that a State’s failure to protect an individual against private violence simply does not constitute a violаtion of the Due Process Clause.”
Id.
at 197,
When a state actor such as Milwaukee County deprives a person of his ability to care for himself by incarcerating him, detaining him, or involuntarily committing him, it assumes an obligation to provide some minimum level of well-being and safety.
DeShaney,
there certainly is no reason to think judges or juries are better qualified than appropriate professionals in making such decisions. For these reasons, the decision, if made by a professional, is presumptively valid; liability may be imposed only when the decision by the professional is such a substantial departure from accepted professional judgment, practice, or standards, as to demonstrate that the person responsible actually did not base the decision on such a judgment.
Id.
at 322-23,
The substantive due process standard (in this context we’ll call it the professional judgment standard) is at least as demanding as the Eighth Amendment “deliberate indifference” standard.
Fromm,
Both the Eighth Amendment and this limited form of substantive due process require the state to provide to detained, committed, or incarcerated persons minimum levels of the basic human necessities: food, clothing, shelter, medical care, and reasonable safety.
See Farmer v. Brennan,
In the context of a claim for inadequate medical care, the professional judgment standard requires essentially the same analysis as the Eighth Amendment standard. First, the plaintiffs medical needs must have been objectively serious.
Cf. Gutierrez,
With this standard in mind, we now turn to the merits of the plaintiffs’ claims against Dr. Downing and Milwaukee County. Although the plaintiffs make a passing argument regarding the County’s policies and practices in an effort to set forth § 1983 liability under
Monell v. Department of Social Servs. of the City of New York,
The threshold requirement is that the plaintiffs show that Jonathan had ah objectively serious medical need, and they have met that burden here. From our after-the-fact vantage point, we now know that Jonathan’s mental illness was very serious; it not only had caused him to attempt suicide in the past but ultimately caused him to make another attempt that killed him. The second requirement is that the plaintiffs shоw that Dr. Downing was subjectively aware of Jonathan’s serious medical need. In hindsight, we know that Jonathan’s condition placed him on the verge of suicide; but hindsight is not the measure of Dr. Downing’s conduct. The critical question is what Dr. Downing knew of Jonathan’s medical needs and whether she exercised professional judgment in that face of those known needs.
Clearly Dr. Downing knew from her initial conversation with Jonathan that he had a *990 serious mental illness and posed some risk for suicide. We have no doubt that such knowledge was enough to trigger a constitutional obligation to provide some level of care and treatment while he was a pre-trial detainee. She also knew, however, that Jonathan had an aversion to powerful, effeсtive anti-psychotic medications. She prescribed a nontherapeutic dosage of an anti-psychotic drug (Thorazine) with the intention of forming a “therapeutic alliance” with Jonathan and slowly increasing the dosage so that he could gradually overcome his aversion to the side effects of the medication. The plaintiffs’ expert did not dispute that this treatment plan was one that a professional might use in such a situation. But he disagreed with the treatment plan, opining that it would have been better had Dr. Downing ordered Jonathan to be intra-muscularly injected with a large dosage of a powerful anti-psychotic drug, which would have had a therapeutic effect for a period of time. For two reasons (at least) this opinion is simply not enough to overcome summary judgment.
First, this demonstrates a disagreement about which of many professionally acceptable treatment plans should have been implemented. While such a dispute might state a negligence cause of action, it cannot make out a substantive due process claim.
Youngberg,
This casе would present a different factual setting if Dr. Downing — or anyone else — had somehow known that Jonathan was on the verge of committing suicide. But the plaintiffs’ expert conceded that no one could have predicted Jonathan was about to attempt suicide. Of course a medical professional need not be certain that an individual is about to commit suicide before a constitutional obligation to act is triggered, but the obligation to take some action is not triggered absent a “substantial risk” of suicide.
See, e.g., Haley v. Gross,
Because we have concluded that Dr. Downing’s treatment of Jonathan did not violate his constitutional rights, we need not consider for purposes of her qualified immunity from suit whether her conduct violated a right clearly established at the time.
See Siegert v. Gilley,
B. Judgment on the Pleadings for the Shorewood Defendants
A motion for judgment on the pleadings under Fed.R. Civ.P. 12(c) is reviewed under the same standard as a motion to dismiss under Rule 12(b)(6).
Frey,
Sgt. Dunn and Officer VanderSchaaf deliberately failed to review any readily available Shorewood Police Department records and incident reports, and County records, concerning Jonathan’s extensive recent history of mental illness, involuntary commitment proceedings, his suicide attempt, his release from suicide watch at the Jail that very day, and Shorewood Police Department records from earlier that evening; they also failed to consult with anyone regarding the implementation of emergency detention procedures to continue Jonathan’s custody in order to provide him with desperately needed medical treatment and care.
Compl. ¶27. The complaint goes on to allege that the officers’ inadequacies were a result of their lack of training or Shorewood’s policy regarding the implementation of emergency detention hearings. Id. The complaint alleges that “[djespite the desperate pleas of Marc Collignon and his wife that Shorewood retain custody of Jonathan and obtain medical treatment for him, Sgt. Dunn and Officer VanderSchaaf released Jonathan about 1:30 a.m.” Compl. ¶ 27. These allegations demonstrate that Marc Collignon and his wife were genuinely concerned, but the allegations also demonstrate that the plaintiffs have no substantive due process claim against the Shore-wood defendants.
The complaint seems to allege a right to be taken into custоdy for the purpose of receiving treatment, but no such right exists. Jonathan had no due process right to be involuntarily committed and thus deprived of his liberty.
Wilson,
Perhaps realizing the futility of arguing that the Shorewood defendants should have taken steps to involuntarily commit Jonathan, on appeal the plaintiffs argue that their allegations assert a claim that the Shorewood defendants exposed Jonathan to a greater risk of suicide. As we noted, state actors may be liable if they place an individual in a position of danger, even if they themselves do not inflict the harm.
E.g., Wallace,
Similarly, we must reject the plaintiffs’ claim that “Sgt. Dunn’s refusal to provide Jonathan with access to medical personnel capable of assessing his known serious medical condition is also actionable.” Appellants’ Brief at p. 31. For this proposition, the plaintiffs cite
Matzker v. Herr,
The judgment of the district court is Affirmed.
Notes
. On appeal, the plaintiffs seem to offer an alternative theory to get around these clear flaws in their expert's opinions, namely, that even if Dr. Downing's purported treatment plan were a professionally acceptable option, she failed to implement it. For evidence of this, the plaintiffs point to some testimony that the drug Dr. Downing prescribed (Thorazine) has a large number of side effects. Again, this evidence fails to create a triable issue. At best such evidence creates an issue of whether Dr. Downing’s treatment plan was negligent. It does not satisfy the plaintiffs' burden to show that no psychiatrist would have prescribed Thorazine as Dr. Downing did in 1993. (The plaintiffs' expert's testimony that several drugs that are now available are superior to Thorazine is hopelessly irrelevant; such testimony has no bearing on the professional choice to prescribe Thorazine prior to the introduction of the ''better” drugs.)
. Similarly, the expert’s opinion that at least some of Dr. Downing’s actions were negligent is irrelevant to the substantive due process issue— the only one before us.
. Although we have some doubt whether the complaint provided fair notice of this increased-risk claim,
see Kyle v. Morton High School,
