ORDER
On September 14, 2015, the court held an evidentiary hearing on the question of the competency of General Charles E. “Chuck” Yeager (Ret.) to proceed in this case without representation. General Yeager and Victoria Yeager appeared without counsel at that hearing, General Yeager representing himself and Victoria Yeager representing herself. Kennedy Luvai appeared by telephone on behalf of interve-nor Parsons Behle & Latimer. For the following reasons, the court finds it must
I. BACKGROUND
A. Procedural History
The court summarized the procedural history of this case in previous orders. See, e.g., Order July 21, 2015, at 2-4, ECF No. 204. In short, General Yeager filed a complaint in this court in 2007, alleging AT&T Mobility LLC and others used his name to promote their products without his permission. John Zarian and Kennedy Luvai, now of Parsons Behle, represented him at trial. After the trial, the jury awarded General Yeager $135,000. He was also awarded attorneys’ fees and costs in excess of $170,000.
In January 2013, AT&T filed a complaint in interpleader in this court, depositing the verdict amount and fee award. It listed several adverse claims to those funds, including from General Yeager and several attorneys. Parsons Behle also intervened, asserting a claim to the inter-pleaded funds derived from unpaid legal fees incurred during the previous trial. A new trial nearly began on the fee dispute between Parsons Behle and General Yeager, but four days before the trial date, General Yeager and Parsons Behle notified the court they had settled. At that time, General Yeager was represented by another attorney, Parker White. However, General Yeager refused to sign the settlement agreement, declaring he had not agreed to its terms, and in October 2014, Parsons Behle sought an order enforcing settlement. ECF No. 128. That motion remains pending today.
Parker White withdrew as counsel for the Yeagers, and the court found the settlement agreement would be enforceable if he possessed authority to enter into it on General Yeager’s behalf. Victoria Yeager intervened to defend her rights in the settlement agreement, and the court held an evidentiary hearing on Parker White’s authority on March 24, 2015. General Yeager represented himself and Victoria Yeager represented herself.
B. Development of Concerns about General Yeager’s Competency
General Yeager’s demeanor and behavior at the March 2015 evidentiary hearing led the court to develop substantial questions about his competency. In particular, his demeanor and responses to the court’s questions were markedly different from his demeanor and responses in the underlying AT&T trial. When asked at the end of the hearing whether General Yeager was competent to represent himself, Mrs. Yeager answered emphatically that he was not. The court therefore ordered the parties to respond to its concern that a hearing on General Yeager’s competency was required. The parties submitted responsive briefs.
After careful consideration, the court concluded, “General Yeager ‘may be suffering from a condition that materially affects his ability to represent himself or otherwise understand the nature of the proceedings.’ ” Order May 21, 2015, at 5, ECF No. 185 (quoting United States v. 30.64 Acres of Land, More or Less, Situated in Klickitat Cnty., State of Wash. (Acres),
C. Hearing on General Yeager’s Consent to the Appointment of a Guardian Ad Litem
The June 2, 2015 hearing went forward as scheduled. Minutes, ECF No. 193; see also Order, Aug. 11, 2015, ECF No. 205. General and Mrs. Yeager appeared, each pro se. General Yeager was provided with a headset to amplify the court’s and the parties’ speech. Court reporters also provided a simultaneous written transcription of the hearing, which was displayed on a screen General Yeager could see and read. A few minutes into the hearing, in an effort to ensure General Yeager could hear and see the court and understand its questions, the court stepped down from the bench and stood at the lectern immediately in front of General Yeager.
General Yeager confirmed several times that he could hear the court’s questions and could read them on the screen. When asked whether he understood the purpose of the hearing, he expressed confusion and did not respond. When asked whether he understood what a guardian or guardian ad litem was, he was again confused and did not answer. When asked whether he was willing to have the court appoint someone to assist him with the litigation, he said, “Next question.” When asked again, he said he would appoint Mrs. Yeager. The court’s previous order clarified that because Mrs. Yeager’s interests in this litigation differ from those of General Yeager, she cannot be appointed as his guardian ad litem. Order May 21, 2015, at 6. When the court asked whether General Yeager would agree to the appointment of some other person, he did not respond.
Mrs. Yeager informed the court General Yeager had brought a written declaration to the hearing, and the court asked General Yeager whether he wanted to read it. He read the names of some of the parties in this case, apparently from the caption, and then read the following:
I, Charles E. Yeager, declare I object to the court stopping me from assigning Victoria Yeager as guardian ad litem. I’m quite able to make decisions such as [whether] to settle and on what terms.
Order Aug. 11, 2015, at 3, ECF No. 205. General Yeager expressed surprise after reading these sentences and asked the court, “Are you objecting if Victoria helps me?” At least twice, the court asked General Yeager whether he wished to read or say anything else, and he responded that he did not.
The court concluded General Yeager did not, because he could not, consent to the appointment of a guardian. Recognizing that the appointment of a guardian ad litem might affect General Yeager’s due process rights, the court ordered General Yeager to appear at a further hearing “prepared to answer the court’s questions regarding his competence to proceed further without representation” and ordered him to submit “any evidence of his compe
D. Competency Hearing and Evidence Presented
A hearing was set for August 25, 2015. Id. at 6. General Yeager submitted some evidence for the court’s in camera review, including a letter from Colonel Matthew P. Wonnacott, M.D., General Yeager’s personal physician. On the Yeagers’ request, the hearing was reset for September 14, 2015, and the court ordered General and Mrs. Yeager to arrange for Colonel’s Won-nacott’s appearance at the hearing. Order Aug. 24, 2015, ECF No. 216. Mrs. Yeager claimed in an affidavit that General Yeager’s hearing loss, not his mental capacity, was the source of the court’s concerns and objected to the hearing. See generally V. Yeager Dec!., ECF No. 214-1. For this reason, General and Mrs. Yeager were ordered to submit, no later than August 31, 2015, “[mjedical records documenting General Yeager’s hearing loss, accompanied by affidavit(s) of treating physician(s) describing that hearing loss and its likely effects on General Yeager’s ability to represent himself in this case.” Order Aug. 24, 2015. .
The court received no additional evidence, and the hearing went forward on September 14, 2015. General and Mrs. Yeager appeared, each pro se. Kennedy Luvai appeared by telephone for Parsons Behle. At the outset of the hearing, Mrs. Yeager hand-filed a printed copy of a one-page email from Káthy L. Smith-Amos, AU.D.,
Dr. Smith-Amos wrote that she had reviewed General Yeager’s “current hearing tests and the current settings in his hearing aids,” which showed he suffered “moderate to profound hearing loss in both ears.” She would expect this type of hearing loss to cause him “difficulty communicating in a courtroom environment even while wearing hearing aids or other amplification” and “difficulty following normal speech sounds especially middle and high frequency consonants.” Mrs. Smith-Amos also wrote that she had “completed some quick research” about an “appropriate interpreter for General Yeager’s particular hearing situation.” She referred Mrs. Yeager to “businesses in the Sacramento area that provide services to hearing impaired persons that do[ ] not include sign language,” but did not name any specific organization. Finally, she wrote, “As to your other requests for information regarding how a hearing impaired person would react to legal jargon or how spouses are attuned to each other I do not have any research available that would support what you are requesting.”
Upon review of this information, the court offered General Yeager its most current Sennheiser wireless assisted-listening headsets,
The court then asked General Yeager several questions; he was not placed under oath. In response, General Yeager could not answer why he was in court and could not recall the date, year, or current President of the United States. Id. at 10-11. He could not describe how documents filed on the docket in his name were prepared or how he signed them. Id. at 11-12.
Colonel Wonnacott was then called to the stand and was sworn in. He testified that he was a licensed medical doctor with a specialty in family practice. Id. at 13. His education included general training in audiology. Id. at 14. He has seen General Yeager approximately fourteen times. Id. at 17. In his opinion, General Yeager suffers from “severe hearing loss in both ears,” but despite this hearing loss, General Yeager has always been able to answer the colonel’s questions, including moderately difficult questions. Id. at 14, 18-19. Colonel Wonnacott confirmed his opinion that General Yeager is “clear and sharp in his understanding and capacity for appropriate medical, social, and quasi professional/legal decision making.” Id. at 14.
The court asked Colonel Wonnacott how he could reconcile these opinions with General Yeager’s responses to questions at the hearing so far, ie., his inability to recall the date, year, or President of the United States. Id. at 19-20. Colonel Wonnacott explained that General Yeager had appeared distracted, unable to concentrate, or that the simultaneous written transcription had been difficult to follow on the screen. Id. at 20; see also id. at 15 (the screen was “very helpful” but he was not sure “that the screen helps tremendously”). The court also asked Colonel Wonna-cott what measures he believed would be most effective to overcome General Yeager’s hearing impairment. Id. at 14-15. In his opinion, General Yeager had the best chance of understanding if his wife, Mrs. Yeager, were to repeat or relay any spoken information to him. Id. at 14-16. The court asked whether another person could perform the same task, and Colonel Won-nacott agreed that was possible, although he believed Mrs. Yeager would provide the most comprehensible assistance to General Yeager. Id. at 16-17.
Because Mrs. Yeager is a party to this action and represents herself, and because General Yeager is also a party and represents himself, creating a potential conflict, the court determined it could not allow Mrs. Yeager to paraphrase or “interpret” the spoken proceedings for General Yeager. The court informed the parties it would take a brief recess and confer with the ADA Coordinator about what services the court could provide. Id. at 20-23. No party objected. After the recess, the court informed the parties the ADA Coordinator had consulted with colleagues and had confirmed that the court could provide audio amplification, real-time written transcription, or a third option along the lines suggested by Colonel Wonnacott: the ADA
The parties agreed to this third approach, and General Yeager confirmed he would be able to understand the court’s questions as repeated by the ADA Coordinator. Id. at 25. Using this method of “consecutive English-to-English translation,” id. the court asked General Yeager several additional questions. In response, he did not recall the March 2015 hearing and did not recall Parker White’s testimony. Id. at 26. He could not recall the brief he filed after that hearing, and did not respond when asked whether he knew how the brief was filed. Id. at 26-27. He was also unable to explain how he prepared, filed, and signed documents in this case or how he had made the court aware of a matter. Id. at 26-28. When asked how he signed documents filed with the court, he answered, “I don’t know. I usually do it with Julie, with my wife,” apparently referring to Victoria Yeager. Id. at 28. Although General Yeager’s electronic signature has appeared on his filings in this case, he appeared not to be aware that documents may be signed by electronic signature. See id. He could not recall the trial in the underlying AT&T case. He did however generalize this case accurately: “Basically, it’s about money ... how much the lawyers get and how much we get.” Id. at 29.
The court then allowed Mrs. Yeager to testify in narrative format, under oath. She explained she had been unable to collect the evidence she wanted in advance of the hearing. Id. at 31-32. She explained that in her understanding, a hearing-impaired person may not comprehend spoken language despite its adequate volume. See id. at 32-35. She testified that she and General Yeager “agree that [he] ... should certainly have a guardian ad litem if I can’t be the person to help him ... in courtroom hearings,” but that “outside the courtroom for decisions ... [h]e is quite capable of making those decisions.” Id. at 36. She explained her belief that General Yeager was unable to answer questions about the date and current President because he was not interested in those questions. Id. at 38.
Mrs. Yeager also testified that “General Yeager relies on me to get briefs filed ... [a]nd I don’t have him sit there to watch me do it.” Id. at 37. “Once he’s briefed on the orders, and I wouldn’t say that he always reads them verbatim, but he’s briefed... [h]e relies on me to get things done.” Id.
After Mrs. Yeager concluded her testimony, General Yeager requested the opportunity to “make a few comments.” Id. at 39. He told the story of his service as a fighter pilot over Nazi-occupied France in the Second World War, how he was shot down but escaped France to Spain, and how he remained there until he was freed in exchange for a barrel of gasoline. Id. at 39-41. At moments he repeated what he had just said, suggesting some loss of short-term memory. The hearing then concluded.
II. DISCUSSION
As discussed in previous orders, Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 17(c) requires the court to appoint a guardian ad litem or to take “whatever measures it deems proper to protect an incompetent person during litigation.” Acres,
A. Competence
A person’s capacity to sue is measured by the standard of the law of his domicile, Fed. R. Civ. P. 17(b)(1), here California state law. “In California, a party is incompetent if he or she lacks the capacity to understand the nature or consequences of the proceeding, or is unable to assist counsel in the preparation of the case.” Golden Gate Way, LLC v. Stewart, No. 09-04458,
Under California law, evidence of incompetence may be drawn from various sources, but the evidence relied upon must “speak ... to the court’s concern ... whether the person in question is able to meaningfully take part in the proceedings.” In re Christina B.,
Federal courts in this circuit have found that a broad range of evidence may inform the court’s decision: a report of mental disability by a government agency, Acres,
Here, the court finds General Yeager lacks the capacity to understand the nature or consequences of the proceedings in this case and is unable to advance his interests or meaningfully participate. In several hearings, over several months, the court has observed his fading faculties. A man who does not recall a recent trial, recent evidentiary hearings, the court’s orders, or at times his wife’s name, not to mention the'date, the year, or the President, should not be tasked with the in propria persona prosecution of an inter-pleader action in federal district court against those who were at one time his attorneys. His hearing impairment only magnifies his difficulty at this stage.
The court has contemplated Colonel Wonnacott’s testimony but remains unper
The problem with allowing this case to continue as it has is apparent from General Yeager’s inaction at the March 2015 evi-dentiary hearing. The sole unanswered question in the dispute between General Yeager and Parsons Behle is Parker White’s authority in late 2014 to settle the case. At the hearing in March 2015, which provided General Yeager the opportunity to produce the evidence required of him, he was unable to call witnesses, ask questions, introduce exhibits, make objections, give testimony, or adequately express his difficulty hearing and understanding spoken language. Mrs. Yeager understood this and urged the court to conclude he was not competent, only to retreat from that position when she understood it might require the appointment of a guardian ad litem. Although Mrs. Yeager now says she and the General would accept appointment, their acceptance is conditional on their ability — meaning Mrs. Yeager’s ability — to identify and provide direction 'to the guardian.
The court finds it must exercise its Rule 17(c) duty to protect General Yeager’s interests in this litigation.
B. Appointment of a Guardian ad Litem
An incompetent person who does not have a “duly appointed representative,” such as a conservator, see Fed. R. Civ. P. 17(c)(1), “may sue by a next friend or by a guardian ad litem,” id. R. 17(c)(2). “The purpose of Rule 17(c) is to protect an incompetent person’s interests in prosecuting or defending a lawsuit.” Davis v. Walker,
1. Duties of a Guardian Ad Litem
First, a guardian ad litem is not a general guardian. See, e.g., Bacon v. Man-
Although a guardian ad litem has more limited powers than a general guardian, the appointment of a guardian ad litem “is more than a mere formalism.” Acres,
A guardian ad litem’s power is not unchecked. He or she acts under the court’s supervision and is an officer .of the court. Neilson v. Colgate-Palmolive Co.,
Finally, because “a non-lawyer ‘has no authority to appear as an attorney for others than himself,’ ” if a guardian ad litem is not a lawyer, he or she must be represented in turn by counsel. See Johns v. County of San Diego,
As a preliminary matter, Rule 17(c) refers to both a guardian ad litem and a “next friend.” Traditionally, guardian ad litem and next friend were different offices. See, e.g., Dacanay,
The Ninth Circuit has suggested a stay may be an appropriate resolution in some cases. Davis,
The appointment of counsel may serve as another alternative to the appointment of a guardian ad litem. See, e.g., id.; Bacon,
As noted, Mrs. Yeager has recently requested the appointment of a guardian ad litem with “limited authority to facilitate proceedings in Court and litigation procedures.” See, e.g., Objections & Response 2,' ECF No. 214; Rough Tr. 6. She has cited no authority to show such an appointment is possible, and the court has not located any. Assuming for sake of argument that this type of limited appointment were possible, the court would decline to pursue this option. A guardian with the limited authority Mrs. Yeager describes would be, as a functional matter, an appointed attorney or translator. Because the court finds an appointed attorney would not adequately protect General Yeager’s interests, and multiple customized efforts at translation have been infective, a limited-authority guardian ad litem would also not adequately protect his interests.
For these reasons, the appointment of a guardian ad litem would best protect General Yeager’s interests in this case. The court understands Mrs. Yeager’s concern for her husband’s best interests. After a guardian is appointed, if while recognizing her obligations under Federal Rule of Civil Procedure 11, she identifies an impropriety or conflict of interest, she may move for the guardian’s disqualification. See, e.g., Z.A. ex rel. K.A.,
3. Potential Guardians
A guardian ad litem need not possess any special qualifications. See Burke v. Smith,
Here, in previous filings, Victoria Yeager has proposed the names of three potential guardians ad litem: Victoria Yeager, Jerry Karnow, and Tammy Karnow. See Objections & Response 4, ECF No. 214. The court has determined Mrs. Yeager cannot serve as a guardian given her separate potentially conflicting interests in this case.
In addition to the court’s prior observations, it notes that at the March 2015 evidentiary hearing, the court asked Mrs. Yeager whether General Yeager was able to protect his own interests, independent from' “hearing issues” and the “natural infirmities associated with longevity.” Hr’g Tr. 106, ECF No. 178. She answered then, “He is not able to represent himself at all. In fact, I was just realizing that he actually did need to testify as to whether he authorized Mr. White or not.” Id. The court explained that could not be her decision, and she acknowledged this: “I understand that. But he doesn’t understand that either, and so he can’t represent himself.” Id. After the court expressed concern that Rule 17(c) may require the appointment of a guardian ad litem, however, see Order Mar. 26, 2015, ECF No. 169, Mrs. Yeager has argued that General Yeager does indeed understand this case and that his difficulties are derived from his hearing impairment, see, e.cj., Rough Tr. at 4:7-19. Her desire to shepherd this case on behalf of both General Yeager and herself explains both her change of opinion and her acting as General Yéager’s de facto attorney here. See, e.g., id. at 37 (“General Yeager relies on me to get briefs filed ... [a]nd I don’t have him sit there to watch me do it .... Once he’s briefed on the orders, and I would say that he always reads them verbatim, but he’s briefed ... [h]e relies on me to get things done.”); id. at 26-28 (General Yeager is unable to recall a previous filing that bore his signature); June 2, 2015 Hr’g Rough Tr. at 15 (General Yeager is unable to recall a declaration that bore his signature).
Moreover, neither Karnow is a lawyer. Since November 2014, the Yeagers have been unable to find an attorney to take on their case. See Opp’n Mot. Withdraw ¶¶ 4-5, ECF No. 137. In the circumstances of this case, the court finds the appointment of either Karnow would not accelerate the appointment of counsel. Because a non-lawyer guardian must secure representation by counsel, Johns,
III. CONCLUSION
In conclusion, the court orders as follows:
(1) The appointment of a guardian ad litem is necessary to protect General Yeager’s interests in this case.
(2) The court will identify a guardian ad litem in a separate order to follow shortly.
IT IS SO ORDERED.
Notes
. The suffix "Au.D.” designates a doctor of audiology. See, e.g., Garcia v. Astrue, No. 10-56,
. A copy of this correspondence-is being filed on the court’s docket concurrently with issuance of this order.
. This system is the same as that used in every court hearing. Each courtroom in the Eastern District of California is equipped with these hearing-impaired systems, which use infrared technology to transmit sound to headset users, including sound-enhanced versions of all court proceedings. See Eastern District of California, Interpreter/Hearing Impaired Systems, available at http ://www. caed. uscourts.gov/caednew/index.cfm/attorney-info/court-interpreters/; see also Instruction
. Most case law on this question is decided in the habeas corpus context. See, e.g., Coal, of Clergy,