Andrej Szucz-Toldy, a native of the former Czechoslovakia and a citizen of Slovakia, petitions for review of the BIA’s determination that his Illinois conviction for “harassment by telephone” is a crime of violence and, hence, an aggravated felony that subjects him to removal. We grant the petition, vacate the underlying decision, and remand for further consideration.
In April 2003, Szucz — who has lived in the United States since 1973 and has been a lawful permanent resident since 1981— pleaded guilty to a single count of harassment by telephone under 720 ILCS § 135/1-1(2). That provision prohibits “[mjaking a telephone call, whether or not conversation ensues, with intent to abuse, threaten or harass any person at the called number.” Szucz was sentenced to 30 months’ imprisonment. In July 2003 immigration authorities issued a Notice to Appear, asserting that Szucz was subject to removal under 8 U.S.C. § 1227(a)(2)(A)(iii) for having been convicted of an aggravated felony. “Aggravated felony” is defined in 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(43)(F) to include any crime of violence (as defined by 18 U.S.C. § 16) for which the term of imprisonment is at least one year. Section 16, in turn, defines a crime of violence as:
(a) an offense that has as an element the use, attempted use, or threatened use of physical force against the person or property of another, or
(b) any other offense that is a felony and that, by its nature, involves a substantial risk that physical force against the person or property of another may be used in the course of committing the offense.
Before the IJ, Szucz argued that he had not been convicted of a crime of violence. He contended that § 16(a) is concerned only with the generic elements of the harassment-by-telephone offense, which, he submitted, do not include physical force or the threat of force. Szucz also argued that his conviction is not a crime of violence under § 16(b), submitting that the inquiry under that provision is similarly confined to the elements of the predicate *980 offense. The immigration authorities responded by arguing in general terms that the IJ was not restricted to examining the elements of 720 ILCS § 135/1-1(2) but instead could look to the indictment, which alleges that Szucz had “threatened the life” of his victim.
The IJ concluded that Szucz’s harassment conviction is a crime of violence under § 16(a). The IJ stated that the statutory language of 720 ILCS § 135/1-1(2) is “divisible” because harassing another would not be a crime of violence, but threatening another might be. He therefore looked behind the statute to the indictment, where he learned of Szucz’s death threat. The IJ concluded that “threatening the life of another person is a crime of violence under 18 U.S.C. Section 16(a) because it involves the threatened use of physical force against another person.”
Szucz appealed to the BIA, arguing that his conviction is not a crime of violence under § 16(a) because the Illinois statute has only two elements — making a telephone call, and doing so with the intent to abuse, threaten, or harass — neither of which requires using or threatening to use force. He also brought to the Board’s attention our newly issued decision in
Flores v. Ashcroft,
The government argues that the petition must be dismissed for lack of jurisdiction, observing that federal courts are without jurisdiction to review a final order of removal of an aggravated felon, 8 U.S.C. § 1252(a)(2)(C). Yet the government concedes that we retain jurisdiction to determine whether Szucz has in fact committed an aggravated felony.
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See Gill v. Ashcroft,
Szucz contends that his conviction for harassment by telephone is not a crime of violence, and therefore, not an aggravated felony. He renews his argument that the IJ disregarded the plain language of § 16(a) by examining not only the elements of 720 ILCS § 135/1-1(2) but also his actual behavior as alleged in the indictment. Szucz argues that the only salient question under § 16(a) is whether § 135/1-1(2) contains as an element the use or threatened use of physical force, and contends that it does not. The government responds that the IJ was not limited to examining the elements of the statute, and instead properly looked to the indictment in determining whether Szucz had been convicted of a crime of violence. In support, it cites to several cases decided under § 16(b).
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Flores
is the most relevant precedent to the parties’ disagreement, and it forecloses the government’s argument. In that case, we held that an Indiana conviction for misdemeanor battery was not a crime of violence under § 16(a), rejecting the government’s position that the court should look to the defendant’s actual conduct— attacking and beating his wife' — rather than the elements of the predicate offense.
The Illinois harassment-by-telephone statute has two elements: (1) making a telephone call (2) with the intent to abuse, threaten, 'or harass someone at the called number.
See People v. Jones,
Therefore, to sustain a conviction under the harassment by telephone statute, it is not necessary to prove the use or threatened use of physical force. It is clear from the Illinois decisions cited above that the state need not prove the existence of a threat; the state need only establish that there was a phone call, and that the caller had the requisite intent.
See, e.g., Pisani,
The government misses the mark by insisting that the facts alleged in the indictment demonstrate that Szucz committed a crime of violence under § 16(a). As Szucz argues, the particular method by which he violated the telephone harassment statute has no bearing whatever on whether one of the elements of that statute is the use or threatened use of force. Therefore, the IJ had no reason to look to the indictment and examine the facts alleged there.
See United States v. Martinez-Mata,
Given that § 16(a) is inapposite, it would seem that the next logical step would be to explore whether Szucz was convicted of a crime of violence under § 16(b). But both parties assert that this question is not before the court at this time. We therefore hold only that the IJ erred by concluding that harassment by telephone is a crime of violence under § 16(a); the Board on remand may consider whether any analysis under § 16(b) is appropriate.
Notes
. In appeals like this one, the government need not waste time contesting our jurisdiction when it is clear that we retain jurisdiction over the question of whether the predicate offense is in fact an aggravated felony.
