Opinion for the Court filed by Circuit Judge RANDOLPH.
The Alaska Legislative Council is a “permanent interim committee and service agency of the legislature.” See Alaska Stat. § 24.20.010 (Michie 1996). It is “composed of the president of the senate and six other senators appointed by the president, and the speaker of the house of representatives and- six other representatives appointed by the speaker.” See id. § 24.20.020. In January .1998, the Council and seventeen individual members of the Alaska State Legislature, in their capacities as legislators and as individuals, brought a complaint in the district court objecting to the Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act and the actions of the federal government thereunder.
The complaint, which sought declaratory and injunctive relief, focused on the federal management of subsistence taking of fish and wildlife on federal public lands in Alaska pursuant to the Lands Conservation Act. Of the individual plaintiffs, two claimed they ate fish and game from Alaska, .two alleged they engaged in fishing, two alleged they engaged in hunting, eleven said they hunted and fished in the State; all claimed that the defendants’ actions would adversely affect their hunting or fishing or their consumption of fish and game. The Lands Conservation Act, according to the complaint, infringes on State prerogatives in violation of the Commerce Clause, the Enumerated Powers Doctrine and principles of federalism embodied in the Tenth and Eleventh Amendments to the United States Constitution; the Act’s rural subsistence use priority, violates the equal protection component of the due process clause of the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution, because it discriminates between users of land on the basis of residency; and the federal government’s implementation of the Act violates the Administrative Procedure Act.
See Alaska Legislative Council v. Babbitt,
Several years before the Council filed its action here, the State of Alaska brought a complaint raising similar allegations.
See Katie John v. United States,
In view of these earlier proceedings, the district court dismissed this complaint on the ground of res judicata, and also on the grounds that the statute of limitations had run on certain claims and that others were not ripe.
See Alaska Legislative Council,
I
A
The initial question, which we decide against the plaintiffs, is'whether the district court had jurisdiction to adjudicate the constitutional and statutory claims of the Council and of the individual legislators, in their official capacity, regarding the Act’s creation of a hunting arid fishing “priority” for rural subsistence users on federal public lands in Alaska,, and the federal defendants’ implementation of the Act. To understand why we believe the court could not hear this aspect of the case — why; that is, the plaintiffs lacked stariding — it is necessary first to offer a brief description of the Alaska National Interest' Lands Conservation Act.
*1336 Enacted in 1980, the Lands Conservation Act had as one of its stated purposes to maintain “sound populations of, and habitat for, wildlife species of inestimable value to the citizens of Alaska and the Nation,” and to “provide the opportunity for rural residents engaged in a subsistence way of life to continue to do so.” See Alaska National Interest Lands Conservation Act, Pub.L. No. 96-487, 94 Stat. 2374 (1980), 16 U.S.C. § 3101(b), (c). To this end, the Act established a priority for “the taking on public lands of fish and wildlife for nonwasteful subsistence uses ... over the taking on such lands of fish and wildlife for other purposes.” See 16 U.S.C. § 3114(a). The Act defined “subsistence uses” as the “customary and traditional uses ... of wild, renewable resources for direct personal or family consumption,” by “rural Alaska residents” — those persons who reside in communities or areas that are “substantially dependent on fish and wildlife for nutritional and other subsistence uses.” See 16 U.S.C. § 3113. If it became necessary to limit subsistence taking of fish and game, the Act provided that the priority would be implemented through limitations “based on the application of the following criteria: (1) customary and direct dependence upon the populations as the mainstay of livelihood; (2) local residency; and (3) the availability of alternative resources.” See 16 U.S.C. § 3114(a).
The Act applied to federal public lands in Alaska, that is, to lands “the title to which is in the United States.” See 16 U.S.C. § 3102(2), (3). Public lands, as defined in the Act, do not include “land selections of the State of Alaska which have been tentatively approved or validly selected under the Alaska Statehood Act 1 and lands which have been confirmed to, validly selected by, or granted to the Territory of Alaska or the State under any other provision of Federal law.” See 16 U.S.C. § 3102(3)(A).
The Act authorized the State of Alaska to “assume management for the taking of fish and wildlife on the public lands for subsistence uses pursuant to this title,” on condition that the State enacted and implemented laws of general applicability consistent with the Act’s subsistence use priority, definitions and local and regional participation requirements.
See
16 U.S.C. § 3115(d)(1). As of 1978, the State of Alaska had adopted a statute giving “subsistence uses ... priority over sport and commercial uses.”
See Madison v. Alaska Dep’t of Fish & Game,
In February 1985, the Supreme Court of Alaska invalidated the Board’s limiting criteria as inconsistent with state law.
See Madison,
B
As to the claims of the Council and the individuals in their official capacity as state legislators, we are guided by
Raines v. Byrd,
According to the complaint, the Alaska State Constitution confers upon the individual legislators “an affirmative duty to legislate for the management of all of the State’s resources including ... fish and wildlife.” The complaint goes on: Alaska legislators “are obligated by ... oath to act in the best interests of the citizens of the State as a whole, to abide by the limitations of the Constitution of the State of Alaska with respect to the common use of fish and wildlife resources and to make a conscientious application of their authority to protect and preserve the public trust for all citizens of the State of Alaska.” The legislators also state that they are similarly required to support the Constitution 'of the United States. See U.S. Const. art. VI. But they and the Council say that because the federal statute and its implementation are illegal, the federal government has interfered with their state duties, and has nullified their legislative prerogatives regarding fish and wildlife management.
The reading
Raines
gave to
Coleman
establishes that injuries of the sort alleged here do not deprive individual legislators of something to .which they are personally entitled. In narrow circumstances, legislators have a judicially recognized, personal interest in maintaining the “effectiveness of their votes.”
See Raines,
The Alaska Legislative Council stands on no better constitutional footing despite its authorization under State law to “sue in the name of the legislature during the interim between sessions” if a majority vote of the Council approves.
See
Alaska Stat. § 24.20.060(4)(F) (Michie 1996). Even if a state legislature and its authorized representative have standing to defend the constitutionality of a state statute attacked in federal court, the position of the Alaska Legislature in this case is not comparable.
See, e.g., Karcher v. May,
C
The legislators, in their individual capacities, seek to mount an equal protection challenge to the Act. They view the Act’s rural subsistence use preference as discrimination against Alaska’s urban residents, and brand the preference irrational because the rural/non-rural distinction ignores need, income level, dependence on subsistence resources, community character, and ethnic and racial membership. They also claim that federal designations of certain communities as “rural,” pursuant to the statute, are arbitrary and irrational.
For the purpose of establishing standing, it is not enough merely to claim discrimination. The plaintiffs must be able to trace the discrimination to some “distinct and palpable” injury to them.
See Allen v. Wright,
In addition to limiting the hunting of moose, caribou and musk ox, the complaint *1340 also alleges that federal regulations have expanded the taking of lynx, black bear, ruffed' grouse and Dali sheep on certain public lands beyond previous State bag limits. No individual plaintiff claims an interest in these particular animals for hunting or any other recreational purpose. To the extent the complaint states any injury to plaintiffs, it is not on the basis that the named legislators are being harmed in their individual capacity. The harm alleged is put in terms of the effect on the State Legislature, which — so the complaint states — cannot protect lynx, ruffed grouse, black bear and Dali sheep or cannot remove federal restrictions on hunting moose, caribou and musk ox. Because the complaint reveals no perceptible harm to the legislators in their individual capacity, they lack standing to bring their claims.
D
The complaint also alleges that federal officials exceeded their authority under the Act by extending regulations beyond federal lands and' thus violated the Administrative Procedure Act. Section 702 of the APA provides that: “[a] person ... adversely affected or aggrieved by agency action within the meaning of a relevant statute, is entitled to judicial review thereof.” 5 U.S.C. § 702. Are any plaintiffs “adversely affected” within the meaning of the Lands Conservation Act?
See National Wildlife Fed’n,
In nevertheless asserting that the federal defendants are regulating beyond federal lands, plaintiffs apparently believe that “public lands,” as defined in the Act, cannot be read to include waters in which the United States has a reserved water right,
6
and that if the ownership of such a right includes the,power to manage fish and game, the federal defendants cannot rest on a mere assertion that they have such a right. They must first “establish” its existence and then adopt regulations based upon it. The federal defendants urge us to dispose of this claim on ripeness grounds. Subsistence management regulations identify federal land units in which reserved water rights exist and subject those units to the Act’s federal subsistence priority.
7
See
Subsistence Management Regulations
*1341
for Public Lands in Alaska, Subparts A, B, C, and D, Redefinition to Include Waters Subject to Subsistence Priority, 64 Fed. Reg. 1276 (1999). But these regulations, though final, will not take effect until October 1, 1999. If the Secretary of the Interi- or certifies that the Alaska State Legislature has amended its Constitution so that it may pass laws consistent with the Act before that time, the regulations will not take effect until December 1, 2000.
See id.
Plaintiffs seek a declaratory judgment and an injunction against the regulations; we do not generally apply these remedies to administrative determinations “until an administrative decision has been formalized and its effects felt in a concrete way by the challenging parties.”
See Abbott Lab. v. Gardner,
Plaintiffs also ask us to read their APA claim to encompass a number of other supposedly excessive agency actions mentioned in their complaint.
8
These include: “the designation of management units, the issuance and denial of permits, the setting of hunting seasons, bag limits, and methods of take.” As we have already mentioned, the complaint states that the Federal Subsistence Board prohibits or restricts non-rural Alaskans from hunting moose, caribou and musk ox in certain areas, and allows the taking of lynx, ruffed grouse, black bear and Dali sheep in others. For reasons previously given, plaintiffs have failed to allege that their interests are “adversely affected” by these actions, as the APA requires.
See
5 U.S.C. § 702,
see also National Wildlife Fed’n,
The decision of the district court is affirmed.
Notes
. The Alaska Statehood Act declared Alaska admitted into the Union on an equal footing with the other States. See Alaska Statehood Law, Pub.L. No. 85-508 § 1, 72 Stat. 339 (1958) (codified at note preceding § 21 of Title 48, Territories and Insular Possessions). It provided that the United States would retain title to all property in Alaska to which it had title, including public lands, and that Alaska would retain title to all property, title to which was in the Territory of Alaska or any of the subdivisions. See id. § 5, 72 Stat. 340. The Statehood Act also permitted Alaska to select acreage from certain national forests and other federal public lands within thirty-five years after its admission to the Union. See id. § 6(a), (b), 72 Stat. 340, as amended by Pub.L. No. 96-487, § 906(a)(1), (2), 94 Stat. 2371, 2437.
. The Regulations noted that "[njavigable waters generally are not included within the definition of public lands.” See Temporary Subsistence Management Regulations for Public Lands in Alaska, 55 Fed.Reg. 27,114, 27,118 (1990).
. The individual legislators do not allege injury to other interests that could provide a basis for legislative standing. For example, an elected representative excluded from the legislature and denied his salary alleges a personal injury because he has been "singled out for specially unfavorable treatment as opposed to other Members of" that body.
See Raines,
. For example, the Alaska Statehood Act gave ■ the State of Alaska the authority to administer and manage fish and wildlife resources, after the Alaska State Legislature made adequate provision for their administration, management and conservation. See Pub.L. No. 85-508, § 6(e), 72 Stat. 339, 340-41 (1958). The entire statute speaks in terms of property and authority given to the State of Alaska, not to the Alaska State Legislature.
. Indeed, the State, represented by the Attorney General, brought a lawsuit challenging federal authority to regulate subsistence taking of fish and game under the Act.
See John,
. In
State of Alaska,
. When plaintiffs filed their first amended complaint, these regulations were not yet final.
. The district court did not do so.
See Alaska Legislative Council,
