Akram Hamid, a Palestinian resident of Syria, pled guilty to charges of conspiring to defraud and to steal. When deportation proceedings were instituted against him, Hamid asked for withholding of removal, 8 U.S.C. § 1231(b)(3), and relief under the United Nations Convention Against Torture (“CAT”), 1465 U.N.T.S." 85, art. 3 (1984), claiming that he would be persecuted and tortured if returned to Syria. The immigration judge (“IJ”) denied relief, finding that persecution and torture were unlikely. Hamid now claims not only that *644 the IJ’s decision was wrong, but that the IJ denied him due process by refusing to allow an expert witness to testify by telephone from London.
Hamid’s parents left Palestine in 1948 and became refugees in Syria. They retained their Syrian refugee status when they relocated to Qatar, where Hamid was born in 1966.' Although Hamid was born in Qatar, he is not a Qatari citizen, but instead inherited his parents’ status as a refugee in Syria. As such, Hamid was subject to mandatory service in the Syrian military. He was allowed to defer his service while pursuing higher education at Damascus University in Syria, but after obtaining his second master’s degree he returned to Qatar rather than report for duty. In 1991, after the Gulf War broke out, he came to the United States on a tourist visa (using his Syrian travel documents), found work in Indiana as a business consultant, and eventually married a United States citizen. On September 21, 2001, he was arrested for participating in a scheme (which the record does not fully describe) to steal and to defraud. He pled guilty to two of the conspiracy counts, received a three-year prison sentence (suspended), and was placed in deportation proceedings as an aggravated felon.
At his hearing before the immigration court, Hamid conceded to the court that his crimes were aggravated felonies, see 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(43)(G) (theft offense for which term of imprisonment is at least one year); § 1101(a)(43)(M)(i) (fraud offense causing loss greater than $10,000); § 1101(a)(43)(U) (attempt or conspiracy), and that he was deportable. He claimed, however, that he feared persecution and torture if returned to Syria. 1 He gave three reasons: his evasion of military service (punishable by imprisonment); the length of time he has been in the United States (a sign of disloyalty); and the fact that he is Palestinian (a disfavored group in Syria).
In support of his claim, Hamid provided documentary evidence, including reports from the Department of State and from Amnesty International, that torture continued to be practiced in Syrian prisons (particularly military prisons) as recently as 2002. He also provided corroborating affidavits from Dr. Eyal Zisser (Professor of Middle-Eastern History at Tel Aviv University) and Dr. Saleem El-Hasan (President of the Syrian Human Rights Committee in London). Dr. Zisser’s affidavit briefly discussed the general political situation in Syria, the government’s routine use of torture, and the military service requirement. Dr. El-Hasan’s affidavit was more comprehensive, covering in five pages a variety of topics relevant to Ham-id’s case, such as the general conditions of Palestinian refugees in Syria, the military service requirement, prison conditions, and “the special risks faced by Respondent, Akram Hamid in case of his removal to Syria,” including the likelihood that he would be imprisoned and tortured. Hamid asked the IJ to allow Dr. El-Hasan (who was in London) to testify by telephone at the hearing, but the IJ denied the request without explanation, simply writing “Motion telephonic conference denied” at the top of the motion.
The IJ ultimately denied Hamid’s request for relief. In a 12-page written Opinion, he found that Hamid, although credible, had not met his evidentiary burden for either withholding of deportation or relief under CAT. He noted that Hamid had submitted evidence supporting his
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claim that he believed he would be imprisoned if returned to Syria, but concluded that it did not establish a clear probability of imprisonment.
See INS v. Stevie,
The IJ also acknowledged, based on the 2002 Syria Country Report, that torture continued to be used in Syria, but found that the Report did not indicate that the use of torture was widespread. The IJ therefore concluded that even if Hamid were to be imprisoned, he would more likely than not be subjected to torture while in prison.
See
8. C.F.R. § 208.16(c)(2);
Comollari v. Ashcroft,
After the Board of Immigration Appeals (“BIA”) affirmed the IJ’s decision, Hamid filed a motion for reconsideration. He cited our decision in
Niam v. Ashcroft,
Hamid now argues that the IJ’s decision finding him ineligible for CAT relief was unreasonable, and that the IJ’s unexplained refusal to allow telephonic expert testimony was a violation of due process. First, we must ask whether we have jurisdiction to consider these arguments. Hamid admits that he is removable as an aggravated felon, and the Immigration and Nationality Act (“INA”) generally prohibits us from reviewing the removal orders of aggravated felons.
See
8 U.S.C. § 1252(a)(2)(C);
Flores-Leon v. INS,
We therefore have jurisdiction to consider Hamid’s due-process challenge. To succeed in that challenge, Hamid must show two things: (1) the IJ’s decision to disallow telephonic expert testimony deprived Hamid of a meaningful opportunity
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to be heard; and (2) the deprivation was prejudicial — that is, the disallowed testimony would have potentially affected the outcome of the case.
See Kuschchak v. Ashcroft,
Although the INA allows an asylum applicant “to present evidence on [his] own behalf, and to cross-examine witnesses presented by the Government,” 8 U.S.C. § 1229a(b)(4)(B), it does not establish a specific right to present evidence through oral testimony. Nevertheless, in several cases we have held that an IJ’s refusal to permit live testimony deprived an asylum applicant of a meaningful opportunity to be heard.
See, e.g., Kerciku,
In general, of course, we have considered live testimony preferable to written substitutes. For example, in
Whitlock v. Johnson,
It is therefore not clear that the IJ’s decision to exclude Dr. El-Hasan’s live testimony deprived Hamid of a meaningful opportunity to be heard. In any event, Hamid must also show that he was prejudiced by that decision. We have found the exclusion of live testimony to be prejudicial when the testimony would have added something that was otherwise missing from the record: corroboration of facts rejected by the IJ as uncorroborated
(Podio,
Hamid’s CAT claim is jurisdictionally more problematic. Before the REAL ID Act, some of our cases suggested that we had no jurisdiction to review CAT claims presented by aggravated felons.
See Espinoza-Franco v. Ashcroft,
We believe that the REAL ID Act resolves these tensions concerning the scope of our review. It abolishes habeas review of CAT claims, providing that a petition for review filed with the appropriate court of appeals is (with an irrelevant exception) “the sole and exclusive means for judicial review of any cause or claim under the United Nations Convention Against Torture.” REAL ID Act § 106(a)(1)(B),
Unfortunately for Hamid, his argument that the IJ wrongly denied him CAT relief does not depend upon any constitutional issue or question of law. Rather, it comes down to whether the IJ correctly considered, interpreted, and weighed the evidence presented — that is to say, whether the IJ’s conclusion was based on substantial evidence.
See Rashiah v. Ashcroft,
In sum, because Hamid is removable as an aggravated felon, we cannot consider whether the IJ’s factual conclusions (including his conclusion about the likelihood of torture) are supported by substantial evidence, so we Dismiss his petition for review in Case No. 04-1600 for lack of jurisdiction. We do have jurisdiction, de *648 spite Hamid’s aggravated felony, to consider the constitutional claim raised in his second petition for review (challenging the BIA’s denial of his motion to reopen) but his due-process argument does not succeed, so we Deny his petition for review in Case No. 04-2013.
Notes
. The government originally designated Qatar as the country to which Hamid should be removed, but Hamid claims that Qatar will not accept him because he is not a citizen. The government therefore designated Syria as an alternate.
